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Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

With all due respect, Peter, to call the present administration neanderthals is to carelessly impugn the memory of the true Neanderthals, who were probably more cultured and humane than our current President and his followers.

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Posted by Barry Moore on 06/23/2017 at 5:06 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

You're hallucinating, Dan Redmond, and that is embarrassing. The left isn't small (petty); it doesn't effectively exist at all except in your nightmares. As far as petulance (impatience) goes, thanks for your advice. We shall just sit patiently and wait for the huckster prez and his neanderthals to straighten everything out.

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Posted by Peter Byrne on 06/23/2017 at 4:37 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

She may not be a virulent racist, but she's certainly a piss-poor writer. She's uncomfortable writing about concepts beyond her experience and/or wheelhouse, and while that may be suitable for the Podunk News Gazette, the readers of a daily paper in one of the largest cities in the country deserve better.

I'm tired of her writing. I'm tired of the warmed-over "discussion" that Weiss and Phil Ponce have on Chicago Tonight - Ponce being another person who is so ill-suited and ill-prepared for his job that I am astonished he's remained so long.

Hedy is not a great reviewer, nor a great essayist. She is no Claudia Cassidy. And for fuck's sake, Hedy, you're not Kate Bush either, no matter how much you seem to think so.

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Posted by Nope Nope Nope on 06/23/2017 at 4:35 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

Not necessarily an endorsement but this is a interesting article on the Chaos Monster and Deep Language and the move to control what we say - there is a fundamental seesaw in the universe between chaos and order - both are needed to create what is. And some of the PC crowd really does go a bit too far. I'm a progressive but they've damned me because I'm also plain-spoken.
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/so-you-want-clean-world-can-you-even-clean-your-room-how-jordan-b-peterson-bringing-order

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Posted by Jim on 06/23/2017 at 4:32 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

When did the Left in America become so petty and petulant. It's embarrassing.

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Posted by Dan Redmond on 06/23/2017 at 4:09 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

@Quis custodiet

Haven't you understood? No one is in charge of the asylum. The lunatics have refused the job. They don't want to be associated with the Trump cabinet. The Three Stooges say no to coming out of retirement. We are an international laughing stock. Listen to the toothless Democrats chomping their gums about the glories of the Clinton years. It would make a donkey weep.

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Posted by Peter Byrne on 06/23/2017 at 3:29 PM

Re: “Naomi Klein says that to beat Trump we need more than resistance

Pursuant to an earlier part of the discussion here, I just ran across this excerpt on NakedCapitalism from an article in The Week (a nifty little mag):

"Where are all the missing leftist voters?

"The most recent bit of such evidence is an important study based on a survey of voters in the 2016 election. It shows that while a good number of people who voted for Trump may well be reachable by progressives on economic issues, many of them are also likely to be put off by the lefts uniform hostility to any kind of cultural conservatism, whether on social/religious issues or immigration. Apparently, the overwhelming majority of voters on the left combine economic progressivism with strong support for open borders and no-questions-asked abortion-on-demand a mixture of positions that is likely to remain a deal-breaker for many middle-of-the-road Americans who dont already vote for liberals.

This gets at my point about the progressive or Liberal Lock-Step.

Posted by Pelham on 06/23/2017 at 2:36 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

So many truths on so many taboo subjects have been uttered here in the comments section. How long before this feature is simply switched off??

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Posted by Quis custodiet on 06/23/2017 at 2:33 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

The INFAMOUS 70. Out with their names so we can launch the boycott before buying Saturday's tickets.

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Posted by Peter Byrne on 06/23/2017 at 1:18 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

FROM THE TRIBUNE:
"The petition at http://Change.org was created by a group of local artists calling itself the Chicago Theater Accountability Coalition, which claims 70 of the city's 200-some theaters have agreed not to offer Weiss complimentary tickets to review a show (part of a longstanding and common arrangement between theaters and arts presenters and members of the media covering their work, including the Tribune). After suggesting the names of those theaters would be released this week, co-founder Sasha Smith said Thursday her group is not planning to release the list because 'at this point it is just already public knowledge (which theaters stand with the coalition), and the list keeps growing and expanding day by day, so at this point it's sort of a moot point to release one specific list.' "

There's nothing moot about it, Sasha, just post the list of 70 theaters here. NOW!

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Posted by Angela Tallis on 06/23/2017 at 12:23 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

I don't trust Hedy Weiss any more than I trust Robert Mueller! SHE'S FIRED!

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Posted by Sez Me on 06/23/2017 at 7:47 AM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

@peace now

Amusing to be called an amateur sociologist by an amateur political scientist or are you simply another local absorbed in Dem/Republican spats? Your thumbnail analysis does well to mention agency. But for you it's only the poor who fail to stand up and act. The inaction of the Chicago and suburban white middle-class has passively supported white supremacy from the beginning. It let machine politics and the various white ethnic minorities, more recent immigrants, do the dirty work for it right up to the stoning of Martin Luther King Jr. in 1966. This same middle-class now pretends that the incredible number of murders in the city have nothing to do with it, as if the deaths are happening on another planet.

The fact that Chicago's black population was not more than 2% until WWI doesn't mean that the city wasn't racist from the very beginning. The first race riot occurred in 1862 when white teamsters prevented African Americans from using the omnibuses. During the Civil War the City Council voted to segregate the schools. If you like cruel humor, note that it wasn't until 1968, under pressure of the Civil Rights Movement, that Illinois recognized Jean Baptiste du Sable as the founder of Chicago. The delay had everything to do with his mother having been a black slave.

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Posted by Peter Byrne on 06/23/2017 at 4:00 AM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

I've always liked Hedy Weiss, now I like her even more. Her criticism is usually spot-on, she's responsive to readers, and the ironic thing about this brouhaha is that she otherwise seems to be a raging liberal. Now I guess stating facts makes you a racist. I had no intention of seeing this play anyway, I got enough "black people: good, white people: bad" from "Get Out." I go to plays and movies to be entertained, not insulted. But because of this, I'm inclined to blacklist Steppenwolf like they are attempting to blacklist Weiss. Other people have cited fascism, but this is more like Orwellian style groupthink and thought police. Scary.

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Posted by Hedy fan on 06/22/2017 at 10:22 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

given that the chicago police department has not seen fit to investigate and close 80% of the murders committed in chicago last year, we actually can no more assume that those murders are black on black than that they may be blue on black.

to repeat: 4 out of 5 murders in chicago went unsolved. for all we know white people - or cops - are committing them.

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Posted by nope on 06/22/2017 at 9:19 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

LaQuan McDonald whipped out a butterfly knife in the middle of Pulaski Rd. and veered toward the sidewalk where he could have took someone hostage, cut their throat, and Glen Lerner would be suing the the City and Jason Van Dyke for negligence. 32 shots for justice.

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Posted by Ed Hubert on 06/22/2017 at 8:03 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

I should qualify my comment that she demonstrates a pattern of sensitivity to perceived (by her) attacks upon Jews and Jewish culture in theater productions which is excessive and to the exclusion of comprehension and acknowledgement of the of oppression of other peoples.

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Posted by Brendan on 06/22/2017 at 6:49 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

Given Hedy's penchant for 'detecting' anti-Semitism, Nazis, and self-hating Jews in Chicago theater productions any commentary she makes regarding race should be treated with skepticism.

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Posted by Brendan on 06/22/2017 at 6:41 PM

Re: “In defense of Hedy Weiss

Peter Byrne,

Your amateur sociology is largely unconvincing, not least of all because it denies agency to the oppressed. Assuming there is some truth in your narrative, which of course there is, then a goodly portion of the blame needs to be laid at the feet of the local Powers That Be. There were very few blacks in Chicago until circa 1910; the growing influx of blacks thereafter helped bring on the brutal 1919 Race Riot. The suffering of blacks over the 20th century in Chicago coincides with the dominance of the white ethnic Democrat political machine run largely by generation after generation of Irish Catholic kingpins, though of course other local white ethnic and religious groups have also been represented among the oppressors.

Not that the other major political party would necessarily have ruled Chiraq any more justly, but the G.O.P. is almost completely absent here: The most segregated city in the North is simultaneously the most Democratic city.

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Posted by peace now on 06/22/2017 at 4:04 PM

Re: “Naomi Klein says that to beat Trump we need more than resistance

A great part of the appeal of 'Star Trek' has always been rooted in its progressive utopian vision. The original series broke barriers for American television in the Sixties. And it is one of the relatively few futuristic fictions promoting an optimistic view of things to come. Oddly, I've never been a particular fan of the franchise myself, though I too bear genuine affection for it and its followers.

And now I'd better get back to cleaning the classroom, per Mistress Tallis's directives.

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Posted by Barry Moore on 06/22/2017 at 3:03 PM

Re: “Naomi Klein says that to beat Trump we need more than resistance

Back on the subject of utopian/dystopian fiction, I just had a "duh" moment.

"Star Trek" was, of course, very much utopian. The Enterprise was the supreme, bold and unapologetic example of a multicultural, multispecies utopia, issuing forth from the vast implied utopia of the Federation. The stories worked not because they examined the utopia itself but because the various perils were always overcome, thus confirming the goodness and resilience of a dedicated crew following enlightened leaders.

I'm not a great fan but I regard the various series and Trekkies with affection. "Star Trek," I think, appealed to baby boomers as the last generation that could reasonably hold out hope for a better future. (Of course, these hopes were dashed, but let's not get into an argument over which generation is responsible for that. It's a class betrayal and as such crosses generations.)

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Posted by Pelham on 06/22/2017 at 2:21 PM