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The New School ShuffleAs facilities meant to solve overcrowding sit half empty, a successful school for the gifted gets its marching orders.
By Ben Joravsky February 7, 2008
Matt Farmer’s a hotshot trial lawyer in a downtown firm who plays in a rock ’n’ roll band on the side and rarely gets involved in local politics. But since the Chicago Public Schools kicked his kindergarten daughter in the teeth, he’s been an activist unleashed, sending snarky e-mails to reporters, school officials, and parents on the northwest side. The issue on his mind is Arne Duncan’s plan to move the Edison Regional Gifted Center out of its longtime home at 6220 N. Olcott and into the same building that houses Albany Park Multicultural Academy, at 4910 N. Sawyer, about five miles down the road. It’s not just the move that bothers him—it’s the way the news was delivered. He and the other parents of students at Edison, a selective-enrollment elementary school with 270 students, were on the receiving end of the sort of top-down marching orders CPS generally reserves for poor and the cloutless on the west and south sides.
Moving Edison isn’t necessarily a bad idea. In fact, as CPS ultimatums go, this one makes some sense. Edison’s enrollment is limited to students who score well on a standardized test. As a result kids from all over the city are bused to the far northwest side. Meanwhile, other schools on the far northwest side are overcrowded, while the newish Albany Park Multicultural is only at a third of its capacity. Move Edison’s students and you kill a few birds with one stone, making the gifted program closer to the city center, opening up a space that can be used as a neighborhood school, and making better use of an underused facility.
But at what cost? Over the years staff and parents at Edison have fixed up their school with money they raised at auctions and other fund-raisers, and the students have grown comfy in their cozy confines. Albany Park Multicultural is a middle school, and while the CPS tries to keep schools that share a building as physically separate as possible, some question the wisdom and safety of combining kindergartners with 12-to-14-year-olds.
Plus, up till now Edison parents had good reason to think the central office would leave them alone. Edison’s students serve a political purpose: they’re the brainiacs the school board needs to help drive up test scores so Mayor Daley can claim he’s fixing the system.
The current bind the board’s in stems from the complexities of keeping pace with the city’s fluid demographics. In the mid-90s folks from Albany Park filled up meeting rooms to beg for new schools, pointing out that the old ones were so hopelessly overcrowded that classes were being held in hallways and broom closets. Albany Park Multicultural was housed in the basement of Von Steuben high school. Thirty-ninth Ward alderman Margaret Laurino demanded that the board give the school its own building. Laurino also wanted the board to build a second junior high just up the road from Haugan elementary, with the idea that the middle school could be an extension of Haugan. She supported a plan that would have had Haugan teachers running it.
To complicate matters, state senators Miguel del Valle (now the city clerk) and Iris Martinez were arguing for a charter school run by Aspira, a largely Puerto Rican social service organization, to be installed at Haugan. Black and Mexican-American groups got to run charter schools, they said; it was the Puerto Ricans’ turn to get a piece of the pie.
Laurino finally got at least part of what she wanted: the Haugan middle school opened in 2005, Albany Park Multicultural in 2006. And Duncan also came up with a bone for del Valle and Martinez, turning Haugan over to Aspira. The board spent more than $60 million total on the two schools. Unfortunately, though, it had taken so long to build them that they weren’t really needed anymore—as Albany Park gentrified, its population of school-age children plummeted. Now Haugan Aspira is 44 percent occupied, Albany Park Multicultural 31 percent. Meanwhile the overcrowding on the far northwest side has had 41st Ward alderman Brian Doherty up in arms, demanding that CEO Duncan turn Edison’s building over to neighborhood kids.
And that’s what Duncan decided to do. But, in typical board style, he and his aides neglected to tell Edison’s parents about it. Why? Board officials say they hadn’t finalized the plan (and that it’s still not, as they always insist, a done deal). But Edison parents say the board sat on the information because Duncan didn’t want to give them time to organize opposition.
After Farmer heard about the proposed move—from a reporter—he and other parents mobilized. In addition to whether Edison would retain its cozy feel if transplanted to a larger school, they’re worried about other plans the board might have in store. Built to hold 800, Albany Park Multicultural currently houses only 250 kids. So even after Edison’s moved there, it will still have room for another 280 children or so. “If you’re a parent thinking about your child’s educational future—and I assume the board wants parents who are involved in their children’s educational futures—you have to ask the logical question: What school is the board thinking about moving there next?” asks Farmer. “You have to assume that something’s going there. It’s reasonable to request a say in planning these things. You don’t want year after year of surprises from the board.”
On January 23 Farmer and scores of other Edison parents showed up at a board meeting to protest the move, generating sympathetic write-ups in the Sun-Times and the Tribune. In the aftermath, board officials said they were sorry if they’d alarmed Farmer and other Edison parents by not giving them earlier notice—they’d planned to tell them all in good time. But, they say, in reality, parental notification isn’t what really matters. “I feel that people get off issue,” says Peter Cunningham, a central office spokesman for the CPS. “Are you pissed off how we rolled it out? Fine. But to make a big issue out of who knew what when is silly. The real issue is whether this is right for the kids.”
As Cunningham sees things, the move is a no-brainer. “We’re doing it because we’re overcrowded at schools on the far northwest side,” he says. “Essentially, busing students in from all over the city to one of our most overcrowded communities as a practice is not very intelligent.”
According to Cunningham, Duncan arrived at his decision after careful analysis of demographic trends. Perhaps, but there are political realities that can’t be discounted. Ultimately the decision to turn Edison over to the locals was Duncan’s sop to Doherty, just as the decision to turn Haugan’s middle school over to Aspira was his gift to Martinez and del Valle and his decision to build Albany Park Multicultural was a gift to Laurino. All involved are loyal subjects of Mayor Daley, and that has its perks.
The larger problem is that the public school system is pretty much broke. There’s hardly enough money to repair leaky roofs or repaint peeling classrooms, much less build new schools. By the time the board gets around to scraping up the cash, the old schools aren’t overcrowded anymore. And so instead of busing kids out of overcrowded old schools in Albany Park, they’ll be busing in kids to fill up the new ones. As school officials have put it to me, when you’re busted, you’re always going to be at least a step behind.
And we’re just talking about the system’s most pressing needs. We haven’t even begun to address the everyday inadequacies most parents take for granted. Talk to Matt Robertson, who’s on the local school council at the overcrowded Palmer Elementary in North Mayfair, and he’ll lay it on the line for you: no art, no music, no drama. “Palmer has been underserved by CPS for so long parents don’t know how to place value on the things we don’t have,” says Robertson. “For me, the fact my kids don’t have a science lab is unacceptable. The fact my kids don’t have a computer lab or a music room or an art room is unacceptable.”
Meanwhile Duncan and other school officials look the other way as Mayor Daley forks over millions of property tax dollars to well-connected developers who build condos and shopping malls in gentrifying neighborhoods. There may be a less effective way to finance and run a public school system, but I don’t know what it is.
A final word of warning to Edison’s parents: Smaller schools that get moved out of their buildings are dispensable—as folks at the old Metro High School can tell you. In 1991 the board moved Metro into Crane High School, and that was pretty much the end of Metro. Because they come from all over the city, Edison’s students have no local alderman or state senator to watch their backs. The best they can hope for is a sympathetic paragraph or two in the dailies. And in Chicago that’s just not enough. 
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Joh at 9:28 AM on 2/7/2008
Every other region of the city that is overcrowded is getting two or three new schools. The North-West side has a do-nothing alderman who is vying time to retirement so we get a bandaid school that will not solve our overcrowding
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Mary M. at 9:31 AM on 2/7/2008
For CPS to argue that this is essentially about what's right for the kids is infurating - to suggest that there are choices to be made is a joke. The deadline to apply to transfer to another school was December 21st, 2007. Edison was notified about this relocation January 16th. So essentially CPS waited until 3 weeks after parents could have considerd another school to make an announcement. Right now parents of kids at Edison have no real choice in the matter.
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Ed R. at 9:55 AM on 2/7/2008
Magnet schools, typically do not bring in federal funds; which is what CPS cares about ($$). So, why support Gifted Students? Those schools only make the CPS look like they are actually doing something.
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Peter T. at 10:08 AM on 2/7/2008
I agree with Ed R. -- why doesn't CPS try to strengthen successful schools like Edison, instead of assuming it will succeed on its own? On a larger level, CPS seems to reveal one step at a time, waiting for the repercussions to sort out. With their professed emphasis on a larger view. new models, and doing what's best for children, why can't they develop a multi-year plan that is laid out clearly? It's infuriating that their actual measures give parents little choice but to assume that CPS is adversarial. What a waste -- there are so many parents, teachers and administrators whould could be great advocates for CPS, and instead end up spinning into dismay and disdain for the system.
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Northsider at 10:48 AM on 2/7/2008
Moving Edison Regional is not a "no-brainer". CPS's own demographics figures show that this solution is temporary at best. The only real solution is to build additions or new schools on the northwest side. This community is being sold short by their alderman and CPS. In the process, CPS is also dismantling one of their few true success stories in Edison Regional Gifted Center.
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Hoping on the Northwest Side at 11:35 AM on 2/7/2008
As a northwest side neighbor to Edison I just want to say that moving Edison will be a devastating loss to our community. It is a model school that all schools should be trying to live up to. We live walking distance from Edison and my children do not attend Edison (not for lack of trying) but we play on their playground most warm days after school and the children are so polite and they just act like children which we all know is an anomoly is this age of growing up so fast. We need to remeber the children in this, not only the children on the northwest side but the children of Edison. Moving those children will be a mistake for all of us.
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Spook at 11:56 AM on 2/7/2008
Ohhhhhh the poor, poor Farmers!
Black and brown Chicago children- and their parents- are grinded into the ground 24/7 by the Daley Empire. But Mr. Farmer kicks back above it all, enjoying a life of privilege as a urbane wealthy bottomless StarBucks drinking vanilla mocha latte grande cool middle age hipster, while sweet little baby Farmer access the most elite public education the city can provide as a birth right, because membership has its privileges!
But hell have no fury when a said member gets inconvenienced! How dare the Farmers get treated like common people of color!
I have two choices for the Farmers, Naperville or The Latin School.
And if he can’t afford these options perhaps he should quit the band and get a second job at Wendy’s
rock ’n’ roll band on the side and rarely gets involved in local politics
Two choices Latin or Frances Parker
rock ’n’ roll band
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non-profiteer at 12:03 PM on 2/7/2008
I just want to say, as someone who has worked with several CPS schools, that Edison is one of the most amazing schools I have ever had the pleasure of working with. Not only would moving Edison be devastating for the neighborhood, but it would be a tragedy for the students as well. The parents have worked so hard to raise money for their school to get new computers and whatever else they may need. I have never been to a school where the parents were so involved with their students' education. Moving these students would hinder their education tremendously. They deserve to stay where they are. The staff at Edison is truly remarkable. What will happen to them? I'm seriously frustrated with the approach that CPS is taking with this situation. Our education system in Chicago is improving bit-by-bit, but this move is not going to help anything. It will only cause pain, frustration and in the end it is the children who will lose the most. Isn't that exactly what we are trying to avoid?
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Carter at 12:29 PM on 2/7/2008
"Black and brown Chicago children- and their parents- are grinded into the ground 24/7 by the Daley Empire. "
I agree, but instead of directing rage at a parent, why not direct it at these parents who keep voting for him?
Daley isn't getting elected due to simply white people, just check the poll results in each ward.
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Spook at 5:24 PM on 2/7/2008
You're right Carter. But honestly would you be surprise if Mr. Rock'n Roll Farmer voted for Daley?
But regardless I blame every body who voted for Daley, especially people of color (and those who didn’t vote at all. Heck I blame myself even though I didn't vote for Daley because even we who didn’t vote for Daley, but voted for some one else could have been more courageous about fighting the policies of this shamefull potentate- housing, education, etc.
And how annoying for little canaries and "non-profiteer" who have the shallow gall to go on about what a "great school Edison" is. Well of course it is!
I'm also some one who has worked with several CPS schools. This is why it’s so unfair! Did the "parents work so hard" at Edison or do they have the resources and access to those resources?
And you have never been to a school where parents worked so hard because clearly those parents have the time, education, energy, etc.
The schools I've worked at and still volunteer at have parents in jail and on crack,etc, so I guess this means their kids don’t deserve the best computers and amazing teachers?
And just how will the Edison students be hindered? How will Ms. Farmer’s education be hindered? I guess they deserve the best by birth right!
And you honestly think we are stupid enough to think those teachers will have problems getting other teaching jobs? But that’s right heaven forbide they have to teach in Englewood and I bet you have a Barack O’Bama bumper sticker on the back of your car?
But since it’s all about compromise and numerous poor schools are also being closed down like the ones around Robert Taylor,were Daley is doing a little economic/ethnic cleansing, why not bus those kids to Edison? Would you( and Mr. Farmer) be amenable to that or can’t we all just get along?
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Astonished at 5:55 PM on 2/7/2008
I am sure it would surprise you to find that all of the families at Edison are not wealthy or white. We are hispanic and live in a rented apartment because we cannot afford to purchase a home, either in Chicago or the surrounding suburbs, does that mean our daughter does not deserve an education comparable to that provided at the Latin School or Parker? It is not our fault or our children's fault that every school that CPS controls does not live up to the standards that it should. That is a tragedy for everyone.
When looking for a kindergarten program we researched our options for the best possibilities and applied (as it is a free process) and she was lucky enough (and smart enough) to be selected for admission. We have been nothing less than thrilled and amazed at what our daughter has been able to accomplish at Edison. We have sacraficed our time, money that we could when we could and made our child's education a priority in all of our lives so that she can do better than we have, isn't that what everyone should strive for whether they are rich or poor, black, white or brown?
At Edison we are a true community of diversity, a place where people like my brown husband who has but a high school diploma and Mr. Farmer who is a lawyer can stand together united for the cause that binds them...they want the best for their children. And their children deserve nothing less than the best.
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Stater Of The (Obscured) Obvious at 6:08 PM on 2/7/2008
Daley is not simply elected by deluded white or black people, but by a ruthless mafia that was created in the forties and has eliminated all opposition for sixty years. Lets not kid ourselves. There are dead bodies in that wake. That does not mean that its policies dont directly function on good old fashioned downhome racism. Its just becoming more and more apparent lately, as the rising tide of gentrifiers is now uniting to do for their spawn what they always expected for themselves. That is not to transform the school down their own block into a great school for everyone, but to grease the wheels of the creation of an upper tier in what was supposed to be a "public" school system. The truth is, at heart, Farmer and Duncan are right on the same page.
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Edison Parent at 6:58 PM on 2/7/2008
Yes, the beauty of Edison school is expressed in its diversity, its community and its commitment to excellence. Obviously, the previous post was not written by someone who understands that Edison is one of the few diverse public schools in Chicago. Diversity is across racial, economic and geographic boundaries. While the excellent education is what attracted me to this school, the diversity is a close second. Unfortunately, Chicago is a city of neighborhoods which are not, for the most part, diverse. Edison provides an oasis to those of us who value diversity, education and community.
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F MORGAN at 7:09 PM on 2/7/2008
Daley is always one step ahead in divying up the loot. Everything is a deal...nothing is based on anything other than favors. Arne Duncan is an incompetent stooge that has clowns working for him. The values of all Chicago property is inflated due to the lack of quality schools period. Raising taxes either the property or transfer tax falls back on Daleys complete Ponzi scheme. Steal from a new group to pay off an old group. The only prayer is that Fitzgerald one day gets the goods...until then realize only Daley's boyhood buddies and those willing to pay the bribes he demands will get anything from this city. Children will suffer and one could only hope Daley gets run over on his bike.
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Wow! at 7:27 PM on 2/7/2008
What I will never understand is the reason that people are so unnerved by people who are striving for the best for their children. Why should Edison parents children be punished by a system that they are not complicit in designing? It is sad that so many kids have parents in jail and on drugs so that they cannot spend their time being involved with their children but remember that those too are choices made by parents. When you choose to stay in the "hood" you choose to offer less to your children than they deserve. These parents have clearly made the choice to think of their children first and now you want to punish the children for it. Shame on CPS, shame on Arne Duncan, shame on Daley and shame on all of you who are so jealous that you would belittle their efforts so callouly.
And for the record, I have no affiliation with Edison other than being a taxpaying citizen of Chicago who hopes that my dollars go to help children like the ones at Edison who also deserve the best that CPS can provide!
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cover up at 8:03 PM on 2/7/2008
1) CPS planning/demographics made big mistakes in Albany Park
2) CPS & NW Alderman never bothered to truly relieve overcrowding
3) Edison parents work hard and struggle - just like everyone else
4) It is a Regional Center - to serve the NW region. CPS has other regional centers - they are all not in the middle of the city
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Jack123 at 8:05 PM on 2/7/2008
Spook,
While you cry at how poorly black and brown children have it, lets look at some facts. The schools in the "urbane starbucks living" area generally do not offer any before or after school programs. The parents in the area generally have to work two or more jobs to make ends meet while worrying about what is best for their kids. I was astonished to hear that many of the "underserved" schools have not only after school care but also Saturday and Sunday before and after school care. I would say they are over served and over dependant.
The poor children whose parents are in jail should not be the problem of CPS, that is what DCFS is for. Work with DCSF to add funding to help find a loving, productive home for those kids. CPS and other schools systems are design to be parents. If the parents can't parent DCFS should step in.
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Albany Parent at 8:07 PM on 2/7/2008
How can everyone simply look the other way when it comes to our children. Our children and this community need Albany Park Multicultural School. Our schools are over crowded here yet this hispanic community is over looked. We do not want the Edison kids here. This will only cause a riff in our already divided community. This will cause fights amoung the children here and who attend Albany that are in gangs. Edison comming here is not a good thing. There will be issues and retalition because them occupying this school will be like stealing from the tax payers who live here.
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Jim3 at 8:15 PM on 2/7/2008
Albany Parent,
Please attend the meeting and express you opinions. CPS has scheduled it for Friday afternoon all the way at Edison so it is difficult to get news coverage but please, be heard and tell others to come. You kids do deserve that school.
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2005 APMA Press Release at 8:32 PM on 2/7/2008
Note 'surrounding'
CPS and Public Building Commission Break Ground on New Middle School in
Albany Park
*FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE*
May 10, 2005
Malon Edwards
CPS Office of Communications
Telephone: 773.553-1620
CPS Chief Executive Officer Arne Duncan and Public Building Commission
of Chicago Executive Director Montel Gayles gathered with community
leaders on the Northwest side today to break ground for a new building
for Albany Park Multicultural Academy to help relieve overcrowding. The
school is currently housed within Von Steuben Metro Science Center, 5039
N. Kimball Ave.
The new building, to be located at 4929 N. Sawyer, will accommodate
approximately 700 students and is scheduled to open in the fall of 2006.
Hibbard Elementary will be the main feeder school, though students will
also come from other surrounding elementary and middle schools.
"Relieving overcrowding has been an ongoing commitment of this
administration," said Duncan. "A better learning environment contributes
to better performance."
The $20 million Albany Park Middle School will be more than 104,000
square feet and have 26 standard academic classrooms for 7th- and
8th-graders. Other features will include two science rooms, a music
room, an art room, a computer room, a multipurpose room, a library media
center, an administrative center, a nurse and student services center
and a gym.
The school also will be fully accessible to people with disabilities, it
will include a state-of-the-art computer network. Some of the proposed
environmental features will include recycled building components, a
motion activated lighting control system to save energy, and vegetative
roof surfaces that capture rainwater, return a portion to the atmosphere
and lower the roof temperature to conserve energy.
Over the past decade, 40,000 new classroom seats have been added by
building new schools and approximately 70 annexes, and leasing closed
Catholic schools and reopening them as Chicago public schools.
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L Sullivan at 8:41 PM on 2/7/2008
I graduated from Edison several years ago, and though, obviously, I am much too young to be worrying about my children's elementary education and much to old to be worrying about my own, I would just like to weigh in on the moving issue. I don't think it's at all a political, racial, ethnic, or economic issue. There were poor both poor white kids and rich black kids in my class. What brought us all together, whether from the south side, north, east or west was our commitment to learning. We truly cared about our education, our teachers, and our school. We were "nerds", yes, and we never won any elementary sports competitions, but Edison was a family that taught every student all it could. When I first found out about the impending move, I was shocked and sad. Things would be so utterly different, the school could never be the same. The, however falsely so, cozy environment in which the students at Edison thrive is a safe haven for some of the (though definitely not all) intelligent children out there who are looking for a great bunch of teachers and a great school, and would and will be utterly destroyed, however selfish that sounds, if the school is moved.
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Edison Parent at 8:49 PM on 2/7/2008
Approx. 30 years ago, Lenart school was looking for a home. When the location was decided upon, the neighborhood was not pleased to have a racially mixed school coming into their neighborhood. Lenart fought for a permanant home which they had for many years but as we know, they moved recently to a new location. Is this where Edison is headed? The Albany parent is reiterating what we already have heard: the Edison move will create much tension to an already underserved neighborhood. Please please please encourage many APMS families to attend the CPS hearing tomorrow night at Edison. We want all voices heard! We don't want to move and we certainly don't want to come to a school which is not welcoming, to say the least.
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George N. Schmidt at 9:49 PM on 2/7/2008
Both Arne Duncan and Peter Cunningham are using the statistics to lie. There are four schools within 1.5 miles of the current Edison, and none of them is ovecrowded. When Arne talks about the "northwest side," he's expanding his definition all the way south to four miles from Edison. That way, he gets the "overcrowding" numbers he wants. Adjacent to Edison, the schools are at capacity or slightly below, by the Board's own most recent demographic numbers.
This is rather typical of how Arne and his closest staff play the numbers games. But to talk about "overcrowding" in the Edison community and then ignore the overcrowding that is already adjacent to Albany Park Middle School is really crazed.
Across the street from Albany Park Middle School is Hibbard Elementary School. This year, Hibbard has more children in it than any three of the four schools within 1.5 miles of Edison.
So, in reality (always a scarce commodity when CPS is throwing around "data") Arne Duncan is planning to establish a corner in Albany Park (Hibbard - Albany Park Middle - New Edison) where nearly 2,000 children will be attending school every day. This is more than are currently in most of the schools in the sliver of Chicago where the current Edison is located.
Arne and his team do this kind of stuff all the time. But anyone who has stood on the corner at Albany Park Middle when school is beginning or letting out on a school day will see not a solution to overcrowding, but a corner that is already overcrowded.
Which makes the attack on Edison all the more ugly, no matter how glib and highly paid the flacks promoting it may be,
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p.t. at 10:21 PM on 2/7/2008
I find it odd that "some question the wisdom and safety of combining kindergartners with 12-to-14-year-olds", considering MOST CPS elementaries are k-8.
Not that I'm for Edison moving, or the way this whole thing has gone down (is going down?).
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Chris at 10:38 PM on 2/7/2008
I went to AG Bell School near Western and Irving Park, class of 1991, in their gifted program. I don't know what it's like now, but at that time Bell also housed programs for deaf kids, blind kids, kids with learning disabilities and, of course, classes for the neighborhood kids.
There were tensions and fights between the "gifties" and the "regies" as we called each other, but my classmates and I survived, even thrived. By the time we graduated, we were friends with the kids in the regular program. Even though our program was a small part of a larger school, we had high parental involvement for our program and had pride in both our school and in our program. Almost all of my graduating class went on to the more prestigious public high school programs.
Bell was a special place and I believe that was *enhanced* by the fact that we were around students who were differently gifted than we were. It was a multicultural education of a different sort. Granted, being just 14 when I graduated, maybe there were politcs and problems of which I wasn't aware, but I still can't help feeling indifferent towards complaints that smart kids will have to be thrown in with the unwashed. That was our reality for eight years, but when all was said and done, we received a good education from good teachers without being sheltered from the average student's reality.
I think the way these families were treated was atrocious and as a parent myself I certainly understand why they might feel fear and uncertainty in addition to ther justified anger. Ultimately, however, I think they would do well to calm down and work on creating a good environment in their new home and try to see that their children may in fact benefit from it.
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Disgusted in the 41st Ward at 11:15 PM on 2/7/2008
I have lived in the 41st Ward for 10 years and it has been overcrowded since the day we arrived. When I asked about how the local school would accommodate my child, they said they would try to have an extra aide to help offset a classroom of up to 40 children.
Consolidating Edison with Albany Park Mulitcultural Center is a offering a sub-standard solution to the families of this neighborhood. And the 41sr Ward parents are kidding themselves if they will have enough space - CPs will cram kids way over the number that should be housed at the Edison building and then start to putting temporary classrooms out in the playground. What I don't understand - why is the 41st ward residents putting up with this treatment? Our alderman has sat on his hands for the ten years. He has given lip service and used temporary classrooms as his solution while making the claim that no one wants a new school building in their neighborhood... Saids who?? What a bogus excuse!
How expendable is the quality education of these children of taxpayers and hard working people of this ward? Should overcrowding just be addressed where there are black and brown children only? There is not equity in moving the Edison kids to another building just to offer a lousy solution to continuously difficult situation in our community.
The only people that have the power to find the money is the Mayor and Arne Duncan. They can find 60 million for Albany Park and from what I hear, they are throwing 23 million into the near west side ( where there is only declining enrollment) for Skinner School - As a selective school, I want to know why Skinner wasn't moved to Albany Park- Let's guess why - new housing, new rich people, less public housing - good for developers who want to keep people in the neighborhood and can point to the pretty new school.
Matt Farmer picked Edison because it had something to offer in a pretty substandard school district who happens to offer a few options for parents. I don't care if he plays rock and roll, drinks Starbucks all day, and makes a lot of money for a living because he is right in demanding that this school stay right where it is. His daughter and 273 other kids from Edison are getting screwed by a political decision that stinks for the families who live in the neighborhood as well as the families who chose to send their children to Edison.
Daley talks all the time about how we never hear about the good things that are happening in our schools - Edison is one of those "good" things and it should not be the political football for bad judgement by the CPS Board.
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APNeighbor at 5:40 AM on 2/8/2008
p.t. Edison is already k-8. I think their concern is that now it would be ~300 7th/8th to ~30 in lower grades. I dont know if its an issue or not but certainly unusual.
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Motherof3 at 7:03 AM on 2/8/2008
I find it interesting that any CPS employee or educator would find it an adequate learning environment to combine a k-8 school with approx. 300 middle school children. Let's think about being a Kindergartener and being overwhelmed by a school with 70% teenagers (including Edison's 7&8th grades). Forget if they are gifted or not, I wouldn't want my child in that kind of situation. Teenagers need their own space to learn to be young adults and make the usual hormonal mistakes that teens make. Why subject any small child to that before it is necessary. There are plenty of 7-8th graders (even 6th graders) in Albany Park that could benefit from joining the brand new state of the art building. Why aren't they being heard? Call your Alderman! Remind her (Laurino) you vote. Does anyone think this is interstingly not an election year for either the Mayor or the Alderman in Chicago????? Yeah, me neither!
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Carter at 9:33 AM on 2/8/2008
"I'm also some one who has worked with several CPS schools. This is why it’s so unfair! Did the "parents work so hard" at Edison or do they have the resources and access to those resources?"
I've worked in many CPS schools as well, and here are some situations that are less black-and-white than you seem to be implying:
1) At Austin High School, kids in a "technology" class weren't being allowed to use their own classroom while the regular teacher was on leave, as they "might damage it" - so the kids were spending that period, every day, in the lunchroom.
Now, Austin HS when I subbed there had 15 open positions - I asked if they were hiring, and I was told no. Same story at the school in Juvie, where another sub told me that the schools had a habit of using subs and not hiring full time teachers to save money, it's budget magic (of a sinister kind). This is no class warfare issue, this is just incompetent administration, and it wasn't whitey holding all the jobs there.
2) at Lincoln Park HS, kids in many classes were using beat up, vandalized books, and only after months did I get someone to let me in the book room (which few teachers seemed to have heard of, or have access to), where I found newer books, boxes of unopened newer books, etc.
This was the mid-90s, and regularly we heard that computers for the schools were sitting so long in storage at Pershing that they were almost obsolete by the time a kid could use them.
I could go on and on and on. but the point is that blaming parents for wanting to help their kids achieve in this system is preposterous - the system is BROKEN, has been broken forever, and trying to make the schools do double and triple duty as de facto parents and social workers means less resources for what we'd call "standard" school stuff.
All that said, as many posters have stated above, don't discount the human spirit - many if not most CPS students I interacted with & grew up with do fine, but it is true that it only takes a few bad apples in a class to make 45 minutes of class-time unproductive for the other 30 kids.
I highly suggest watching the 4th season of the Wire, it's so similar to the CPS experience I had it's eerie.
The bottom line is CPS kids, compared to their Catholic school counterparts, don't seem to do much homework. They regularly come to class unprepared, without even so much as a pen or pencil, and this is based on subbing in literally dozens of schools. No amount of resources on earth are going to allow kids to succeed when they aren't working as hard as their peers in other systems - I went to Ignatius and we did 3 - 4 hours of homework, every night.
Only in the IB programs do CPS kids do that, it has much less to with whether or not one is gifted than with the amount of effort one puts in. It doesn't cost anything to do homework - the one thing CPS parents need to do better is to stop letting their kids spend all night watching TV and playing video games, that doesn't cost anything.
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The Rock at 11:51 AM on 2/8/2008
The most intelligent comments I have ever read in a blog. You are commended for your thoughtfulness and concern. Too bad the writers in this blog aren't in policy making positions.
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Colins Dad at 1:20 PM on 2/8/2008
In order to get a $22M project approved in the corporate world, you need to present a pretty thorough plan. Likewise for a $22M loan from the bank.
So what was CPS thinking when they spent $22M on APMA? What elementray schools, besides Hibbard, were going to fill those 800 seats? Where is the outrage from the Albany Park parents who are now losing this educational asset for their children?
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Edison Neighbor at 1:25 PM on 2/8/2008
This is just idiotic. As usual, this whole stupid idea of busing kids around is a direct result of the utter incompetence and blatant corruption that stains this city and the CPS.
I am all for diversity, which is why up until now my family has lived in the city. But the whole bussing issue is just wrong and masks what is REALLY at the heart of this issue:
Local communities are NOT being served!
Bussing students doesn't even put a band-aid on the situation. Kids shouldn't under normal circumstances have to be bussed FIVE MILES AWAY to go to school. In rural or remote parts of the country, perhaps this is different.
But in CHICAGO? Give me a friggin' break. Doherty, Daley and Duncan all deserve to be strung up from the nearest tree. All I can say is, my fellow Chicagoans who blindly march to the stifling, incompetent beat of the Dumb-o-cratic machine in Chicago - THIS is what you have done. Thanks for nothing.
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Outragged 41st ward parent at 1:47 PM on 2/8/2008
Edison is the only gifted school on the Northwest side. All the other areas have serveral. Oh, and we can't get our kids in that score better than others because it needs to be racially diverse. If you want racial diversity that is fine, just make enough spots in the gifted program that anyone that scores in the top 10% gets in, not just if you fit the racial profile they are looking for.
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Spook at 2:12 PM on 2/8/2008
Stater Of The (Obscured) Obvious, We are not worthy! We are not worthy! But please keep it up! You got lyrical flows, like Mike Jordan had moves on the court!
Garter,
I’m happy you know about Austin (or what was Austin High) and I appreciate your service, what ever it might be or have been! My point to you, my brotha (if I might take the liberty) is that why are so many people waiting to jump in line to "Boo Hoo Hoo" the plight of little Baby Farmer and her noble Papa, who is now only politically engaged and in raged because it’s HIS daughter! It reminds me of a poem, "First they came…" by a German Pastor Martin Niemoller, born in 1892, about the silence of the privilege class during Nazi Germany. But unlike Germany, the Farmers are only getting screwed on a micro level, but my oh my, look how every body is all worked up over This School! Well what about the rest of the schools? What about the kids who are gonna have to cross into rival gang territory because their schools are closing? Where is the outrage?
Why are we as a society sooooo less preoccupied, with concern for those blacks and browns with out resources and connections? How come we as a society can’t speak up for them? Where is the outrage for them?
All THEY get is abuse from white conservatives, scorn heaped upon them by Black middle class folk who parrot the verbal beat downs of these folks by "leaders" like Cosby and O’Bama; and then there is the louder than a bomb silence of benign neglect from white liberals, unless said liberals are making money off their misery as directors of some, feel good band aide patching leaky dam "non profit" organization.
And I’d be interested to know what the racial and economic break down is at Edison? And why would they not consider taking in some disadvantage kids from poor neighborhoods? I’ve seen so much genius in some of the most "criminal minded" teenagers, but because they rot away in schools like Doolittle, Beethoven, Bennett, Beasley, Burke, etc, etc, etc, And these schools aint really schools, just modern inner city concentration camps connected to the grave and prison. But every body is all on the down low, hush hush about these schools with their poverty and inexcusable level of violence because the little Baby Farmers of Chicago don’t have to go to these schools.
You mentioned the HBO’s The Wire, well who do you think "Chris Fortlow"-Marlow’s enforce might have been if could have attended "Edison"? And perhaps Marlow himself instead of being a charismatic predatory drug dealing killer, might be the 37 year old on Today’s NY Times, flying around to parties on charter jets as leader of the predatory mortgage industry.
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Carter at 2:25 PM on 2/8/2008
the ugly truth is that as long as we have prohibition & the resulting illegal drug trade and organizations that profit from it, it will be hard to change the communities you mention.
especially when you factor in corporate personhood, which has made the corporation, particularly the multinational ones, the most powerful forces on earth, who respect only a bottom line.
the mafia Obvious spoke of goes way back, much earlier than the 40s, and it has had no trouble enlisting people from all ethnicities, and enticing them to sell out their people.
but let's be honest - are people in the schools you mentioned worried about people other than themselves? it's very understandable why people tend to be preoccupied with what they know and what directly affects them, it's biological. who is out there howling about pollution and asthma the coal plants in Pilsen cause? pretty much people in Pilsen. same for every community, really.
the shame is how people don't understand how the powers that be have set up a system which pits them against each other, that is the $100,000 question, how to fix that.
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Spook at 4:33 PM on 2/8/2008
"let's be honest - are people in the schools you mentioned worried about people other than themselves? It’s very understandable why people tend to be preoccupied with what they know and what directly affects them, it's biological. who is out there howling about pollution and asthma the coal plants in Pilsen cause? pretty much people in Pilsen. same for every community, really."
Oh come on Carter, we both know that's not even logical,( its true, but blind) Yea how dare those poor people in Englewood not care about the farmer girl!
but screw it then, let’s toss in the towel. The strong and rich survive. Yea each person for their self. That what America is about any way. Heck I hope Bush boots the constitution cause we don't deserve any better, just like we deserve Daley, they both suit our self centered serving mentality.
Its 4:30, I’m leaving early to get a "drank"
I'm out
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APMA Community at 10:08 PM on 2/8/2008
try palmerelementary.blogspot.com/
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Ron the Janitor at 10:36 PM on 2/8/2008
CPS held a community meeting regarding moving ERGC to APMA this evening. The CPS hearing officer will be accepting faxes at (312) 986-9192 until the end of business next Friday, 2/15 regarding this issue. I urge all concerned Albany Park community members to express their concerns about taking the $22 million dollar educational asset away from the community it was built to serve. Speak now or it will be lost forever.
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N Medina at 10:40 PM on 2/8/2008
Chicago schools today got a big gift from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for underserved Chicago schools. See: myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5642087&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.8.1
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Edison Mom at 11:45 PM on 2/8/2008
Outragged 41st ward parent your child needs better than the top 10% to get into Edison my "white" child scored in the top .1% If you think gifted education is about being in the top 10% then you really know nothing about this school or gifted children for that matter. If your community gets back Edison you will have all new teachers, new principles and many unknowns. This will not be Edison you will be getting. You will get the shell of a building that once was Edison.
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to Edison Mom at 12:06 AM on 2/9/2008
Edison Mom, "Outragged"'s point was that the CPS's claim that their regional gifted centers eligibilty is the 90% or higher, but that in reality, you must, particularly if you are a white child, score much higher, like your child did. GEAP aims for 65% minority enrollment in its "enhanced programs", a number I'm not very happy with, as any program with an aim of over 50% of any group seems, well, unfair.
You can be sure that there are kids at Edison that just hit the 90% cut off but that make that 65% goal a reality.
There is also the crazy notion that standardized test scores are not the be all end all indicator of "giftedness", but seems to be the only "verifiable" way these days. These "cut offs" vary from school district, so what "qualifies" for gifted is nebulous at best.
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George at 4:30 AM on 2/9/2008
Hopefully, more people will bring in here what happened last night at Edison. I took notes from 51 of the speakers, and there were at least a half dozen more than that. Just about every one was eloquent, and it seemed that once the Ebinger and Oriole Park people began to get their say, they weren't as hostile to Edison as they had seemed to be earlier in the evening. By the hearing's end, precisely at 8:00 p.m., there was more talk about how the overcrowding at that end of town was a community problem, and not something that should be pitting the parents of children at Edison (many of whom live in that community) against the other schools nearby.
More than 300 people, coming out on a Friday, discussing public education. Great story. Of course, CPS did everything possible to undermine the story that was coming out, not the least of which was holding the hearing out in the land near O'Hare, and on a Friday night. CPS also refused to video tape the hearings (all of them, not just Edison), and it's unclear whether anyone will actually get a copy of the "hearing officer's report" before the Board of Education meeting on February 27.
The only low point in the meeting, once some of the earlier passions cooled and neighbors realized they are all in this together, came from the alderman.
Doherty actually said that CPS can build a new school (or two) in the 41st ward because there is (a) no money and (b) no land.
Since CPS is currently spending a couple of hundred million dollars on capital projects on other parts of the city (drawing on dollars from a variety of sources, while saying "There is no money") anyone has to wonder where Doherty gets his information.
On another site, I've offered to take the alderman (or a couple) on a "facilities tour" of current CPS projects going on right now in Chicago. My favorites are the Austin renovation ($17 million; exterior only); Morse elementary; Grant elementary "campus" -- now two military "high schools"; and, of course, the new Westinghouse. How can a member of the Chicago City Council not get the information on all of the dollars going into those projects? Those dollars are not being spent by NASA collecting moon rocks. They're a half hour drive from Harlem Ave. and the Kennedy.
But by far the most important and expensive capital project in CPS is Jones College Prep High School, at Harrison and State St. CPS has been pouring millions (by my count, between $50 and $100 million) into the unnecessary Jones project since 1999.
Take just one fact: The money CPS has spent to evict the Pacific Garden Mission from the south end of what will eventually be the "Jones Campus" (and relocate it to the southwest of the traditional site) has cost more than it would have cost to build at least one and probably two new elementary schools in Alderman Doherty's ward.
Has the alderman been asleep while all this money was being spent on a vanity project of Mayor Daley's (conveniently, to provide a boutique high school for Daley's new neighborhood) within walking distance of Doherty's City Hall offices (on a nice day, at least)?
Let's not say "There is no money and there is no land." Both statements are ridiculous.
Let's admit that the people of Edison, Oriole Park, and Ebinger (and a dozen other schools, all the way out to here, where I live near Portage Park) are simply not a priority for this administration.
They'd rather play, "Let's you and him fight" like they are trying to do by pitting the Edison parents against the parents of the children at Ebinger and Oriole Park.
Nonsense. The resources have been there. Many hundreds of millions of dollars have been wasted. But there are more available right now, as a tour would show, from 214 N. Pine (Austin), to 620 N. Sawyer (Morse, now "Polaris Charter") out to Westinghouse (Franklin Boulevard) and finally over to the site of where Pacific Garden Mission worked for a century, back to the days when Billy Sunday was evangelizing.
If the alderman is afraid to go into some of the neighborhoods where the dollars are being spent (often, on privatization schemes that undermine public schools), I'll drive and we can find a couple of off-duty police officers, Edison parents perhaps, to ride shotgun.
But when I worked in those communities during my 28 years teaching, I didn't need a bodyguard.
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Downtrodden at 8:29 AM on 2/9/2008
When is the CPS hearing being held at Albany Park Multicultural Academy, to discuss public education in and for that neighborhood?
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Motherof3 at 8:36 AM on 2/9/2008
Doesn't Ald Laurino (Albany Pk plus her wealthier areas) realize that she has diminishing numbers because her public schools aren't good? Maybe people wouldn't be moving into the NW side to attend these great neighborhood schools if the schools in their own community were better. There are of course exceptions to which I speak, you will find a gem in Palmer Elementary-not being represented by Laurino or anyone else in this plight. I wonder how the people who paid handsomely for their homes in the Edgebrook, Saug. and Wildwood school boundaries are going to feel when the boundaries are redrawn?
Old Irving Pk Middle School is turning into a Magnet Program? ha-another example of wealth at work. They want a special program that gives their kids an advantage to get in? Belding Elementary has a magnet program, yet still it sits underutilized just blocks away. Expand the program at Belding-they asked for a World Language Program 2 years ago but didn't get the "nod" from CPS, why doesn't Old Irving they fight for that-because their kids don't use the school-that's why! Give Edison Gifted the Irving Pk. building and the NW side can have its bandaid.......but I will tell you that if any of the NW side kids test into a gifted or classical program they'll be busing happily out of the neighborhood singing the praises of CPS.
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Sanctioned? at 9:02 AM on 2/9/2008
North River Commission Special Membership Council Meeting
To Discuss Chicago Public School Changes
Tuesday,February 12,at 7:00p.m.
at Homer Park Field House
southeast corner of Montrose and California
CPS is proposing to move Edison School, a gifted elementary school'currently ranked the #1 elementary school in the state,from it's location.in Oriole Park to
the new Albany Park Multicultural Academy.
Special Guest for the Open Forum is Joe Kallas, Area One Instructional officer. Mr. Kallas is the former principal of Peterson Elementary School and is a board member of the North River Commission. He is the liaison between the CPS and the community and welcomes your questions and concerns at this open community dialogue.
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CPS Hearing Video footage at 9:03 AM on 2/9/2008
The entire hearing was video taped by an Edison parent. So video footage does exist.
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REPOST FAX 2/11 MONDAY not 2/15 at 9:06 AM on 2/9/2008
CPS held a community meeting regarding moving ERGC to APMA this evening. The CPS hearing officer will be accepting faxes at (312) 986-9192 until the end of business next MONDAY 2/11 regarding this issue. I urge all concerned Albany Park community members to express their concerns about taking the $22 million dollar educational asset away from the community it was built to serve. Speak now or it will be lost forever.
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Blame the Board at 10:53 AM on 2/9/2008
I am a 7th grader at Edison. I have been at Edison since second grade. I have been with the same class for five years. I have seen class after class graduate on that Edison stage with the blue gowns and caps. I think I can speak for every student when I say I want to graduate on that stage with my class; my friends.
Edison is like a second home to me. By moving it, it is the same as moving somebody's home into another's home, even though you don't know the person currently living there. My class is like my family. I have made the greatest friends ever at Edison. There is nobody else I would rather graduate with.
Including over 150 more eigth graders.
I agree with Albany Parent. There are overcrowded schools near Albany that are neglected. Is this because they are Latino? I think it is. I went to the meeting at my school on Friday, and the lamest excuse I heard from neighborhood parents was they wanted their kids to walk to school.
I live a block waya from Oriole Park School, therefore I do not walk to Edison. I take the bus. Do you see me complaining that Oriole should move to Albany and Edison should move to that building so I can walk to school? No.
I think it is unfair for the Board to make this life-changing decision without telling us first. It;s nonsense the way the handle things. Edison will not stop the overcrowding. It is a small school. Other schools will continue to be overcrowded. I don't think the Board has thought about that. The Board has not regarded what we want. They think they can do whatever they want because they are the Board of Education. Well, they better think about what others want and need.
All I have to say is this: The Board of Ed better think twice before they make a decision that concerns US without consulting US or asking US what we want first. Because WE are not afraid to fight back.
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Parent at 12:13 PM on 2/9/2008
To answer Downtrodden's question, the meeting is being held next Tuesday evening (see above post) 1 day after the CPS hearing officer is closing his case to further input. In addition we were told that his findings would possibly be published the DAY OF the hearing. So much for fair play.....
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Edison Neighbor at 3:31 PM on 2/9/2008
As a resident who lives around Edison, I would rather see another school on the property than all the mobile classrooms that are going to be coming soon.
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To Edison Neighbor at 5:33 PM on 2/9/2008
Oh course you would not want your neighborhood to look trashy with the mobile classrooms and have that trailer park look. The Alderman said there is no money to build a new school? What has your Alderman been doing for your community for the last 17 yrs? How could he let it come down to this? This area may get a bandaid; the building back and a soccer field filled with mobile classrooms. But like most band aids they will stick for awhile before they fall off. Then the hunt for a new band aid begins. 1000 students are over crowding the surrounding elementary schools. Does anyone really think the physcial plant called Edison will solve this? Norwoord Park Elementary sits on a large parcel of property, so does Edison they need to build NEW schools for this area!
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Correction at 6:57 PM on 2/9/2008
The call for "new schools" on the Far NW side is uninformed. The need in this part of town is not for new schools, but rather for new additions to the existing schools. Maybe that's six-to-one-half-dozen-or-the-other for the mostly uninformed posters here. But there is a big, big difference. An addition is a fraction of the cost of a new school, property generally doesn't need to be acquired (which meanst the new capacity is delivered within 18 months instead of 3 years), and the existing schools are generally small.
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Correction Correction at 8:31 PM on 2/9/2008
Due to the overcrowding at all of the area schools, additions would be needed at all the schools. This would be great, the schools need science labs, libraries, and lunch rooms that can accomidate the students. Since getting this done is highly unlikely, building a single middle school on the grounds of one of the other schools would be a legitimate compramise. Both Edison and Onahan sit on large amounts of lands which could easily host a middle school and relieve the overcrowding throughout the area.
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Correction 3 at 9:04 PM on 2/9/2008
How about building additions to the existing schools and a NEW school somewhere. The people of this community deserve both and the children of Edison deserve to stay where they are. Even if the Edison building was given back to the neighbors they will only open it up to kindergarten the first year. Then the 2nd year have kindergarten and 1st grade each year phasing in a new grade. There will be very little benefit to giving this school back to the neighborhood when it will take 8 years to fill it. Also to run it at 80% of the capacity as CPS likes to do this means this school will lose the sciene lab, the LCR and the library. The kids will be back to the conditions they came from at their over crowded school. Hasn't the Alderman shared this with the families living in the area? Has the Alderman also told the families in this area that he has proposed year round school to relieve the overcrowding. Doherty has some explaining to do to all the people he lied to!
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MacDuff at 3:00 AM on 2/10/2008
"...Old Irving Pk Middle School is turning into a Magnet Program? ha-another example of wealth at work. They want a special program that gives their kids an advantage to get in? Belding Elementary has a magnet program, yet still it sits underutilized just blocks away. Expand the program at Belding-they asked for a World Language Program 2 years ago but didn't get the "nod" from CPS, why doesn't Old Irving they fight for that-because their kids don't use the school-that's why!"
Belding is losing students (like Murphy and Riley) because the CPS "Office of New Schools" gave the information about the top students at all three of those schools to the invaders from the Chicago International Charter Schools that's now housed inside the old Immaculate Heart of Mary Elementary School. Despite the fact that nobody in the community wanted (or needed) a charter school, CPS put it there, and now CPS is helping it suck away children from the main three elementary schools nearby.
That, by the way, is also what happened in Albany Park after Arne Duncan told Marge Laurino that she had to accept the fact that the new Haugan Middle School (two blocks north of the old Haugan) would become the second charter school run by the clout-heavy Aspira outfit.
The charters begin with an uneven playing field, then CPS tilts it even more in their direction with tricks like giving away the "top" (i.e., highest scoring) students if they can get away with it.
If you run the demographics in most parts of the city where local public schools are losing enrollment, it's often (not always; often) because CPS has been promoting this crazy notion of "choice" via privatization through the charter schools. Belding, Reilly, and Murphy are simply facing the same unfair recruitiing practices that screwed dozens of schools farther south over the past six or seven years.
And yesterday, in case you missed it, CPS hosted its "New Schools Expo" out at Williams Elementary School (27th and Dearborn). The thing was actually a charter school expo, designed to lure CPS parents into signing their kids up for the charters.
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Old Irving Resident at 9:21 AM on 2/10/2008
The parents of OIP do not send their children to Belding because the children there are hispanic. They feel that hispanic children (who speak spanish at home) learn differently than their white children. I live in the area and went to a meeting in which this was openly discussed. The parents on the south side of Irving Park Road also do not want their children to cross Irving Park Road because it is such a busy street. Additionally a new school is being built just south of this are for Irving Park and Avondale area. There also are not enough kids in this area to support the new school being built and a new magnet school. My child is the only elementary school child on my block. All the other kids are in highschool. The next 2 streets over have a total of 5 elementary children who all go to other magent schools that I highly doubt they would leave. I do not know if this has been suggested but perhaps they should consider moving Edison there.
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OnlyRepublicanAlderman at 3:21 PM on 2/10/2008
This whole situation is a testament to the uselessness of Alderman Doherty. After years of increasing enrollments, with the best public schools in the city in his ward, the best he can do is temporary structures and band-aid solutions. Hello, Alderman? Good schools and increasing population are not unrelated. People move here because of the schools. We need an Alderman that can get us the money we deserve to solve this problem.
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Thoughts on 41st at 7:16 PM on 2/10/2008
Maybe I'm an apoligist for Doherty and other alderman, but it is not true to say this (school overcrowding) has been the same problem for 5 or 10 years. OK, the schools' enrollments have all trended in the same direction: up. And its been moving up steadily and dramatically for 5 years. But there has always been SOME room in these schools. Now there is NO room. Also, every regional public school enrollment surge does eventually stabilize. The question is when? And the problem is not so much related to something that did or didn't occur in the past, 5 or 10 years ago. The problem appears to be that if the growth continues on pace in his ward, all 6 or so schools in the 41st ward will go on closed enrollment. It's like a set of great restaurants. Totally booked forever and ever. That may be fine for the families currently enrolled (i.e., their kids' class sizes won't get any bigger). But it's bad news for any new families considering public education in that area because the choice to enroll in their neighborhood school is essentially eliminated. Might be just the thing the Catholic schools need to keep their enrollments up.
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New Teachers?? at 10:47 PM on 2/10/2008
Does anyone know what will become of the teachers? Will they be transferring to the new campus? Will the "new" Edison Park be pre-K thru 8th grade?
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Parent at 5:59 AM on 2/11/2008
It is not completely clear what the plan for the teachers will be. We have heard that all staff will be moved to the new location "in accordance with the rules defined by CPS"...I think it means they will all go. There have been absolutely no plans shared with what will happen with the new Edison Park school. Rumor has it that it will be an "organic" school starting with only K and 1st and adding a grade each year.
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HDW at 7:28 AM on 2/11/2008
Last Friday night, at 5PM, the black hole for the news cycle, CPS scheduled the hearing for the Edison relocation.
Some Students spoke:
Tess Krope, 4th Grader
http://youtube.com/watch?v=y88SYU-VUQ4
Griffin Koziol
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i2WSi_KUvuk
Some Parents:
Rachel Wallach
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tOOZIW54y6U
Christine Kim
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iWyrsmJJjYY
And Matt Farmer, interviewed in the picture above:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n-96yd5TeaU
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Carter at 9:16 AM on 2/11/2008
Has the class-size ratio been changed so that it actually reflects every individual class? in the mid-90s I was told that teachers would be given an *average* of x kids per class, but the problem was the central system functioned so poorly you ended up with some classes with 40 and some with 10, etc.
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NW Side Resident at 2:54 PM on 2/11/2008
If you live on the NW Side, Please call, email, mail, attend meetings, do what you can to let your alderman, representative, senator, mayor, school board, and govenor know the problem of overcrowding is not going away. There was just an article in the Trib about kids eating lunch at 9:00 am at Taft. What is going to happen in 5-8 years when the overcrowding of the elementary schools fully hits the high school? Will your kids be eating lunch at 7:00AM?
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Spook at 5:21 PM on 2/11/2008
NW side sums it up with a bow attached.
(If you live on the NW Side, Please call, email, mail,.....)
-Yea screw every body else, I guess Coalition politics rest in the grave with Harold Washington.
"What is going to happen in 5-8 years when the overcrowding of the elementary schools fully hits the high school?)
-This sums up the shallowness of most of the "Edison activism". Totally clueless about
the drastic over crowding and the ensuing violence caused by it, at numerous high schools on the south and West Side and even Northwest side with High Schools like Roberto Clemente.
Yea, if Farmer got his wish, then most of these posters would fade right back into the woodwork.
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Hmmm at 7:15 PM on 2/11/2008
So, Spook, if I had to sum up your position is it "its bad everywhere so just be quite and let it happen." or is it "the south and west sides would stick up for you why wont you stick up for them"? It seems like you're saying the city is full of community activists accept those shallow Northwest siders. Or is it that most people will tend to focus on their own problems?
Oh, if you're suggesting that we all stand up together against CPS then I completely agree, but thats not quite what I was reading.
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NW Side Resident at 10:36 PM on 2/11/2008
http://www.ren2010.cps.k12.il.us/newSchools_Fall07.shtml
There you go Spook, lots of new schools for the West and South Sides.
Then take a look at the schools that are overcrowded and the projected growth statistics. This is not a want for the Northwest side. It is not a nice to have. It is something that is desperately needed.
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Spook at 6:07 PM on 2/13/2008
Hmmmmmmm
That has always been my point! CPS is rotten and for some kids it’s a true horror story dailey. I do not use the world concentration camp lightly. What it will take to change( among other things) is for parents with "means" like Farmer (and even parents in the best private school) to be concerned with all kids- of course I do expect him/them to care more about his/there own. But to be "apolitical" until it’s your kid is sinful and to not articulate a bigger picture when so many other kids have it much worse is again sinful.
I'm childless north westide side home owner by the way, but as a resident of Chicago, it’s of great concern to me, from Edison, to Robeson, to Chicago Vocational School
P.S NW side, again that was my point, its a city wide problem Edison should consider being part of larger coalitions, no matter what.
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Ahem at 5:30 PM on 2/14/2008
Hey Spook, what do you have against the Farmer family? They are just standing up for what they think is right for their school. You would probably do the same if you cared that much. THey just want the best for their little girl, so why do you oppose? Why do you always trash them in your comments?
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NW side parent at 8:17 PM on 2/14/2008
I say this to CPS & Ald. Doherty:"Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!" A wonderful school, which is a model of excellence, will be profoundly altered by this ill-conceived relocation proposal. Here's the facts about the only two local schools that will actually be impacted/"helped" by this travesty: 1)Ebinger School is the LEAST crowded of all of the NW-side schools, if you include the many large, new modular units that were installed this summer (07). 2)Oriole Park school is only at 78% capacity if you include their spacious modulars, some of which were also installed summer 07. Garvy, Bridge and a host of other NW-side schools are much more overcrowded, and they don't get an inch of help from this proposal! I know because I've listened to Jim Dispensa of CPS, and because my kid attends an overcrowded NW-side school (over 80% capacity with modular units)that lost it's lunchroom, computer lab, etc. due to overcrowding. CPS tells the media this proposal to relocate Edison is to relieve overcrowding on NW side. It's not even going to make a dent! Edison the bandaid. Why are the Ebinger & Oriole Park schools being given priority over much more severely overcrowded NW side schools?
Lastly, talk about a developmentally innapropriate idea! How can CPS propose to combine a K-8 school in a facility with 300 (soon to be approx. 450)teenagers? Edison has one class per grade of about 30-31 kids, so there are 300 teenagers at APMA to Edison's K, 1st, 2nd, etc. CPS will say it is two schools within a facility, and they aren't being combined. Let's be real, Edison and APMA students will have to use many of the same facilities (gym, lunchroom, bathrooms, etc.), so that argument seems dishonest at best. With a straight face, 41st ward alderman Doherty tells the Feb. 8 crowd (in so many words)that Edison neighbors dont want a school built on the huge field behind Edison (where one used to exist long ago). No one's been asked this question, but I know plenty of 41st ward residents and he doesn't speak for them! Wonder what's going to happen to all of that valuable land just sitting there, over the next few years.... This relocation proposal smells.
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NW Side at 11:04 PM on 2/14/2008
1)APMA = project built on bad politics, bad planning or real estate interests in the area
2) Northwest side overcrowding = good excuse to move Edison
3) move Edison to APMA (at any cost to the children)
4) Aldermand does have to work =Bad move for gifted kids = Continue NW side over crowding
5) If CPS pulls this off, no one will ever realize the 23 million mistake.
6) CPS continues to wield it's power and arrogance
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Hmmmmm at 1:26 PM on 2/15/2008
Spook, thanks for clarifying your points; I believe we are mostly in agreement. I do have to point out that using Edison and Mr Farmer as examples of wealthy, selfish and apolitical community leaches is probably undeserved and uniformed.
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Victor3 at 2:56 PM on 2/18/2008
Spook, surely you, as a barstool philosopher, must have heard of "think globally, act locally" What do you think that the Edison community is doing? I guess the fact that you are unaware that the fight to keep Edison where it is is but a skirmish in the war against CPS, fought on behalf of all the kids in Chicago. Or are you just bigoted against smart kids because of the silver spoons they all must have been born with? My kid goes to Edison. I work like a dog, and we manage to scrape by. In my letter to the mayor, I demanded he defend all Chicago children against CPS, not just mine, but I guess that even though you were able to quote "first they came for...." you still don't understand that a fight for one school is a fight for them all, that until people like me are directly threatened we are so damn busy trying to survive that we can't take time to be proactive. Fighting this fight has set me back, and it will take me a while to recover, but I don't care because it's for my kid. So what if I have to skip lunch for a month or two or more. The saddest thing is that even though you rightly point out that we must all fight for each other, your comments are devisive and serve the enemy (CPS), not the people. The Edison community is not privileged, we just care abut education, We know how important it is. It's well known that in those underserved areas of the south and west sides that you spoke of, the opposite is true, that kids who are smart or good students are ridiculed and beat up, because the culture there scorns education. Few of the people in those areas would even think of appying to Edison, or any other such school, and those that do are always welcomed and supported when they managed to escape the self-imposed oppression of those communities. Edison parents my seem elitist to you, but that's only because it hasn't occured to you that they are part of a larger group of parents who value education so much that they take the time to find and apply to magnet and selective enrollment schools. Do you really think that once we are lucky enough to have our kids go to one on of these marvels that were going to declare "mission accomplished" and sit on our butts? Getting in was only the beginning. As one of the lowest funded schools in the city we have to raise alot of $$ so our kids can have what others are given for free. Instead of whining about our efforts, why don't you get to work in those other communities and get them to respect and value education as we do, so that there really can be a large enough coalition to get something done and hold CPS accountable? I don't have the time. If you still don't understand why we are fighting for our kids the way we are, go out into the wilderness early some spring, mess with some bear cubs, and see what mama bear has to say about it. If you survive, then you may have a clue, cause right now you don't.
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Victor3 at 3:17 PM on 2/18/2008
Spook, surely you, as a barstool philosopher, must have heard of "think globally, act locally" What do you think that the Edison community is doing? I guess you don'y get that the fight to keep Edison where it is is but a skirmish in the war against CPS, fought on behalf of all the kids in Chicago. Or are you just bigoted against smart kids because of the silver spoons they all must have been born with? My kid goes to Edison. I work like a dog, and we manage to scrape by. In my letter to the mayor, I demanded he defend all Chicago children against CPS, not just mine, but I guess that even though you were able to quote "first they came for...." you still don't understand that a fight for one school is a fight for them all, that until people like me are directly threatened we are so damn busy trying to survive that we can't take time to be proactive. Fighting this fight has set me back, and it will take me a while to recover, but I don't care because it's for my kid. So what if I have to skip lunch for a month or two or more. The saddest thing is that even though you rightly point out that we must all fight for each other, your comments are devisive and serve the enemy (CPS), not the people. The Edison community is not privileged, we just care abut education, We know how important it is. It's well known that in those underserved areas of the south and west sides that you spoke of, the opposite is true, that kids who are smart or good students are ridiculed and beat up, because the culture there scorns education. Few of the people in those areas would even think of appying to Edison, or any other such school, and those that do are always welcomed and supported when they managed to escape the self-imposed oppression of those communities. Edison parents my seem elitist to you, but that's only because it hasn't occured to you that they are part of a larger group of parents who value education so much that they take the time to find and apply to magnet and selective enrollment schools. Do you really think that once we are lucky enough to have our kids go to one on of these marvels that were going to declare "mission accomplished" and sit on our butts? Getting in was only the beginning. As one of the lowest funded schools in the city we have to raise alot of $$ so our kids can have what others are given for free. Instead of whining about our efforts, why don't you get to work in those other communities and get them to respect and value education as we do, so that there really can be a large enough coalition to get something done and hold CPS accountable? I don't have the time. If you still don't understand why we are fighting for our kids the way we are, go out into the wilderness early some spring, mess with some bear cubs, and see what mama bear has to say about it. If you survive, then you may have a clue, cause right now you don't. PS. I lived on the west side, in East Garfield Park, for almost 20 years. Cosby has it right, and all of my neighbors down there agree with him. We saw it happening every day. If we could change things like that, even to just get everyone to respect education, a lot of the other problems would just dry up and blow away in the wind.
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Inquisitive at 9:44 PM on 2/18/2008
What is FRIENDS OF MARGARET LAURINO? And who contributes?
http://interactive.chicagobusiness.com/daley/contributor/7191-friends-of-margaret-laurino/
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Victor3 at 7:58 AM on 2/19/2008
Just a few afterthoughts. Sorry for the double post. It's hard to edit in a stamp sized box, and the system to edit your post is a bit clunky for me. One last thought about the bigotry against smart people: If something bad happens to you and you end up in the ER, I'm sure you'd want someone like an Edison grad fighting to save your life. Likewise if you find yourself falsely accused in front of a judge, or any other situation where brains will save the day or your life. If this country didn't have it's head up it's butt, we'd treat smart people like pro athlete superstars, since IMHO one of them is worth 20 overpaid athletes. Let's stop biting the hands that feed us.
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Confusion? at 8:32 PM on 2/19/2008
I don't get it...the gifted program isn't being taken away it's just moving - CPS is not taking away the program and your kids aren't being affected.
What I think I get is that CPS wants to "clean house" and get a new staff for your kids and a new staff for the "new Edison".
Don't ya thinK?
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NW Side Parent at 9:26 PM on 2/19/2008
One problem with it is it takes the very last gifted or magnet school on the North Side (West of Central) away from the neighborhood. Now, those of us who live around here and have kids who need the gifted environment have no choices.
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Victor3 at 10:14 PM on 2/19/2008
dear confusion, you need to read all the info about the situation, because to say that your comment is a huge over simplification doesn't even come close. To answer one point you made, why wo