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The ABCs of TIFs

The city’s “ABC’s of TIF”

TIFs for Dummies

The city finally posts some (mis)information about its tax increment financing program online.

November 1, 2007

If you want to know why taxes are going through the roof, check out the city’s latest propaganda about tax increment financing.

This two-page primer, recently posted on the city’s Web page (PDF), is billed as “The ABC’s of TIF: Benefitting all of Chicago.” Filled with mistakes, half-truths, and erroneous assertions, it would probably earn an F for its writer if it were submitted in a college course on municipal financing. Either planning officials don’t understand the most important program they oversee or they’re purposely misleading the public. I’m not sure which would be worse.

I have to give them credit for one thing: along with the primer they’ve posted brief profiles of each TIF district. TIF critics have been pestering the city to put this info on line for years. They include lots of useful information, such as when the district was created, when it expires, its boundaries, some (though not all) recent projects, and how much money sits in its reserves. If you’re truly obsessed—like yours truly—you can go through all the reports and tally up how much of your tax dollars is squirreled away in bank accounts. As of December 2006, it was over $895 million.

As for the primer itself, I’ll read it so you don’t have to. It’s set up as a Q and A, starting with the basics: “What is TIF?” The answer: “TIF stands for Tax Increment Financing.” Well, at least they got that right. But it’s got the wrong date for the first TIF district (created in 1984, not 1983), it screws up the basic explanation of how a TIF works (mixing up tax rate and assessed value), and it inflates the amount of TIF money going into Mayor Daley’s “Modern Schools Across Chicago” program ($600 million, not $800 million, according to the mayor’s own PR, not to mention that the schools overall are actually losing money thanks to TIFs). It even gets the name of the program wrong (“Modern Schools Throughout Chicago”).

And those are the minor mistakes. The document also says that TIFs are created and run in an open process, when in fact the program is well hidden from the public—even if you live in a TIF district, how much you’re paying into the TIF fund isn’t even itemized on your tax bill. It says TIFs are “used to encourage development and investment where it would not otherwise occur,” but in fact the money largely goes to wealthy neighborhoods—like the Loop. It says the approval of TIFs is closely monitored, but in reality oversight is limited to a rubber-stamp board filled with mayoral appointees who know better than to ask hard questions.

But the biggest howler has to do with taxes. “Does TIF increase the taxes in other parts of the city?” the primer asks.

The answer? “No. The main benefit and appeal of TIF districts is that they are self-sustaining and allow the City to pay for major improvements projects without raising taxes or having other parts of the city pay for those improvements.”

Then it asks: “If I live in a TIF district, does the TIF increase my taxes?”

The answer again is no: “TIF is not a new tax, but it works by putting the natural increase in property taxes to work in that specific neighborhood. Home owners may see increases in property taxes, but only in proportion to increases in the value of their homes—exactly the same as if they were not in a TIF.”

Sigh.

OK, one more time—let’s review how this sucker works. When the City Council approves a TIF—always with Mayor Daley’s blessing—it freezes the amount of property tax dollars the schools, the parks, the county, and other taxing bodies get from that district for 23 years. If the schools were getting $100 from a TIF district when it was created, that’s roughly all they’ll get until the TIF expires. Any extra tax money, generated by rising assessments or new development, goes into the TIF fund, which Mayor Daley is free to use largely as he wants.

Think about this. If the schools, parks, and county can only get $100 from a TIF district, what do they do when their expenses go up to $200? They have to raise their levies—the amounts they each get from the property tax pie—to compensate for the money diverted to the TIFs. When they do that, property taxes go up. No matter what the city tells you, TIFs are tax hikes, plain and simple—the more you create, the higher taxes go.

It might not be so bad if we only had three or four TIFs. But there are 156—and the city is proposing new ones every month. The existing TIFs divert at least $400 million a year in property taxes. At their current rate of growth, in a few years they’ll be diverting more than $500 million a year.

So why does the city issue misleading documents like “The ABC’s of TIF”? For the same reason they keep the TIFs off the tax bills and out of the budget. They don’t want taxpayers to know about them because if taxpayers—already upset about rising taxes—knew about TIFs, they might do something about them.

I’m not surprised by this latest move, but I am insulted by it. The city is basically saying, We can get away with telling you anything about TIFs—that up is down, that black is white—because you’re too apathetic to care or too stupid to figure out that we’re putting you on. And so far the city has been right.

Here Comes the Bill

On October 22, Cook County clerk David Orr released the annual tax rates, which lets us make some preliminary calculations on the big losers and winners in the property tax game.

To understand how this works, you have to realize a few things about taxes. They’re essentially calculated by multiplying our property’s value by the tax rate. Every three years, the county reassesses what your property’s worth. The higher its value the more you’re going to pay, unless, of course, the city and county decide they want to cut taxes by drastically cutting the tax rate (stop laughing).

In 2006, the county finished reassessing property in Chicago. In the next few weeks, the county will send out the first installment of tax bills that reflect the newer, higher assessments.

Here things get tricky. In order to reduce the burden on home owners, the county offers a home owner’s exemption, which reduces taxes for people who live on their property. The default amount that’s knocked off is $5,000, but since 2004 it’s been inflated to $20,000. That was set to expire this year, and after three years of wrangling, legislators agreed to hike the exemption to as much as $40,000. When the bill was signed, house speaker Michael Madigan, senate president Emil Jones, and Mayor Daley announced that at last the poor beleaguered home owner was getting some kind of a break.

Don’t be fooled. Not everyone gets the full $40,000. Many people get $33,000. Next year the exemption drops to $26,000; in 2009 it falls to $20,000, and after that it falls to $6,000.

Plus, some people live in neighborhoods where property values are rising so fast that the increased exemption won’t protect them from a wicked tax hike. It’s painful to read in the paper how everyone’s getting a tax break and to open up your tax bill and see that your expenses are shooting up. I know, because it happened to me after the last reassessment, in 2004. Just days after I got a letter from Cook County assessor James Houlihan basically telling me, good news, your taxes are going down, I got a bill from the county telling my taxes were going up 129 percent.

The home owner’s exemption doesn’t cut the overall amount of dollars the city and county take from taxpayers. It only shifts the burden from one subset of taxpayers to another—including commercial property owners and residential landlords, who pass it on to their tenants. So if you’re a renter, this affects you too.

According to Houlihan’s calculations, roughly 75 percent of taxpayers will receive substantial protection from the expanded exemption, while 25 percent will not. In reality, the home owner’s exemption protects incumbents—like Mayor Daley and County Board president Todd Stroger—by minimizing the number of voters who are outraged by their rising bills. As one of my less sympathetic buddies put it to me about three years ago: “Thanks for picking up the slack, loser.”

So who are this year’s big losers? Poor residents of neighborhoods like Garfield Park, Lawndale, Englewood, and the near west side. My initial analysis shows that when the tax bills come out, any day now, those folks will be looking at tax hikes as high as 100 percent.

As gentrification creeps into their neighborhoods their property values go up. But rising property values don’t always correlate with rising income. As taxes rise, a lot of people will have to choose between borrowing to pay their taxes, selling their property, or going into foreclosure.

Who’s being spared while the west and south sides get scalped? Huge swaths of the northwest and southwest sides and some neighborhoods on the north side, including mine. Yes, that’s right, lucky me—I’m only facing a one percent hike on my next bill. I love you, Mayor Daley!

It’s a dangerous game we’re playing with property taxes. Today’s winners are tomorrow’s losers. And with Daley and Stroger raising the rates we’ll probably all get pounded next year. It’s easy to look the other way when someone else is picking up the slack. But sooner or later your turn will come.   

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frankmorgan at 4:09 AM on 11/1/2007

Taxation without representation ... Daley wear's his crown well...those Olympics just a TIF away!

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DanielMessick at 9:45 AM on 11/1/2007

Here's what I can't fathom: Daley & Stroger propose massive taxation on anything & everything. The public balks, the media reports on it for a little while, then come election time, the sheep, I mean public, votes these clowns in again, because the opposition to these 2 clowns never seems to put a formidable campaign up.

God forbid a fiscal conservative attempt to run for office...if he/she is not a Democrat (and frankly, what Democrats are??), then there is no chance that they will be elected.

The sense of impotence a citizen feels when the county and city preliminary budgets are released is nothing short of rage inducing.

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Hugh at 10:20 AM on 11/1/2007

" ... the primer ... inflates the amount of TIF money going into Mayor Daley’s "Modern Schools Across Chicago" program ($600 million, not $800 million, according to the mayor’s own PR, not to mention that the schools overall are actually losing money thanks to TIFs)."

The kinder, gentler side of TIF: TIF for the CHILDREN!

The commitment of TIF for schools is a press release commitment. There is NO intergovernmental agreement between the City and the Chicago Board of Education to transfer TIF money. There are NO TIF-funded schools working their way through the Public Building Commission. All the things you would expect to see if this were a real program and not a crass PR stunt are not happening.

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Hugh at 12:10 PM on 11/1/2007

TIF District Reports/ABCs of TIF

http://egov.cityofchicago.org/city/webportal/portalDeptCategoryAction.do?BV_EngineID=cccdaddmgliikgecefecelldffhdfgn.0&deptCategoryOID=-536899477&contentType=COC_EDITORIAL&topChannelName=Dept&entityName=Planning+And+Development&deptMainCategoryOID=-536886126

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Hugh at 12:12 PM on 11/1/2007

Excerpt from Civic Federation's Chicago Public Schools FY2008 Recommended Budget: Analysis and Recommendations

The next exhibit shows a ten-year trend for CPS property tax revenues. Over that period,
property tax revenues have risen by 33.2% or $454.4 million. This represents an increase from
approximately $1.37 billion to $1.82 billion.

Chicago Public Schools
Property Tax Revenue: FY1999 to FY2008
(in $ thousands)

Fiscal Year Revenue $ Change % Change
FY1999 $1,368.1 -- --
FY2000 $1,403.7 $35.6 2.6%
FY2001 $1,429.9 $26.2 1.9%
FY2002 $1,480.0 $50.1 3.5%
FY2003 $1,546.3 $66.3 4.5%
FY2004 $1,583.1 $36.8 2.4%
FY2005 $1,633.1 $50.0 3.2%
FY2006 $1,678.3 $45.2 2.8%
FY2007 $1,748.3 $70.0 4.2%
FY2008 $1,822.5 $74.2 4.2%

10-Year $ Change $ 454.4
10-Year % Change 33.2%

Source: CPS Budgets FY1999-FY2008

Approximately 72% or $1.32 billion of the levy is earmarked for the General Fund to finance CPS operations. The second largest amount, $368.2 million, is set aside for the Public Building Commission Operations and Maintenance (PBC O & M) Fund, which supports the repair and maintenance of CPS buildings.

http://www.civicfed.org/articles/civicfed_251.pdf

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Hugh at 12:13 PM on 11/1/2007

Excerpt from the City's propoganda:

How does TIF affect other taxing bodies?

TIF creates major new economic activity inside and outside the TIF district. New buildings and stores generate revenue and pay taxes

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Hugh at 12:18 PM on 11/1/2007

This has never happened. No Chicago TIF has ever expired. No taxing body other than the City has benefited from Chicago's TIFs. No one other than Daley's developer pals has benefited from TIF.

"The existing TIFs divert at least $400 million a year in property taxes. "

HALF of every property tax dollar in Chicago is Chicago public school operating funding. If we give Daley's Department of Planning and Development's TIF program credit for ALL of CPS's property tax revenue growth, they are still out HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS every year.

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Outdoorsy1 at 1:58 PM on 11/1/2007

It is reported that the budget gap is around 100 million (200 million if one includes new croney spending obligations), correct? If 400 million is being diverted due to TIFs, and the city's take would have been about a quarter of that if the funds were not dirverted...it does nto take a math major to figure out WHY the city claims they need to raise taxes....it is because that 100 million is being diverted to TIF funding not in the budget. We are 100 million short...where is it?...oh we have it, it is just not in the "budget". Lets get that 100 miilion from the taxpayers now by upping the levy.

How long until TIF abuse recieves NATIONAL attention it deserves? It Chicago's case, it is abused and is simply a "slight of hand" tax increase that is never-ending.

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Carter at 2:20 PM on 11/1/2007

As long as you're on the topic Ben, could you do an article debunking Hizzoner's ridiculous claim that he hasn't raised property taxes in 18 years/since becoming mayor?

Daley's claim is a lie, as property taxes have gone up for the vast majority of us every three years.

The City/County legal mumbo-jumbo which attempts to muddy the issue by passing responsibility for property tax increases from the tax rate to the assessed value (or v.v.) does not change the bottom line, the amount owed, which is all that counts as it's the amount you need to pay.

Where are the Trib and Sun-Times on this issue? How the hell does Daley keep getting away with making this absurd claim unchallenged?

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Albert F. Opitz at 9:18 PM on 11/1/2007

The sad truth, there is no creditable opposition against Daley or Stroger, except "Father Time" and the "Grim Reaper"!

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Hugh at 11:44 AM on 11/3/2007

Excerpt from the City's propoganda:

What happens after a TIF district expires?

The property tax revenues that had been captured by a TIF would be included in the property taxes already collected by Cook County – these revenues being much higher than they would have been without the TIF (because of the new development and business activity in the TIF area). TIF serves as a major long-term benefit to the region’s overall tax base.

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Hugh at 11:46 AM on 11/3/2007

This has never happened. No Chicago TIF has ever expired. And looks like one never will. This pot o' gold at the end of the TIF rainbow is a COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL scenario described by the City.

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tonyb at 10:14 AM on 11/5/2007

Thanks, Ben ... though this is, as always, frustrating, absurd and outrageous.

But keep up the great work.

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Hugh at 3:10 PM on 11/5/2007

Excerpt from the City's propoganda:

Do all redevelopment projects within a TIF
district automatically receive funding?

No. Each TIF request is thoroughly evaluated by the City.

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Hugh at 3:13 PM on 11/5/2007

Every TIF project proposed by the Daley administration has been approved by the Community Development Commission, the Chicago Plan Commission, the Finance Committee of the Chicago City Council, and the full Chicago City Council.

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Maria Pollock at 9:10 PM on 11/5/2007

Ben, I see the point of the tax game. But what does it take to reform the tax code? Why is there so much resistance in the government to find a true reform for our old-fashioned taxing system? We have the resources, great economist and even nobel prize winners in town? What does it take?

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Carter at 8:27 AM on 11/6/2007

well, my new bills came in yesterday, so as I'm no expert, can anyone clear up a few questions:

1) my homeowner exemption is listed as $2,100 - I thought it was more like $5K, which is what the assessor's website states. is this an error, or did something change in Springfield (I thought the exemption actually increased)?

2) is my annual tax bill until the next assessment my total 2006 tax bill, or is it double the current bill that came in the mail? my new tax bill went up 60% if the latter, but (oh boy) only 30% if the former.

thanks.

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Arminius at 9:37 AM on 11/6/2007

Sigh.

Another piece of lefty propaganda from Master B. I can respect someone writing from the intellectually defensible position that TIFs aren't a good economic development tool, or TIFs should be less opaque; but this rant barely does either and instead continues Master B's tradition of misleading anti-Daley propaganda. Herewith are the problems with this article:

1) Ben says TIF money "largely goes to wealthy neighborhoods" but then he doesn't bother to provide us readers with his analysis. Has Ben looked at all TIF expenditures since 1984 and compared this spending with the economic characteristics of the neighborhoods in which TIF money was spent?

2) And even if the TIF money was spent in a "wealthy neighborhood" has Ben done the analysis to determine whether or not the project funded would have occurred without the TIF (i.e. remember that TIFs are "used to encourage development and investment where it would not otherwise occur") and then analyzed the economic impact of these projects?

3) Ben assumes a static world. In Ben's mind the City spends TIF money on a project while everyone else suffers because we all need those tax dollars. But he doesn't ask what impact those projects are having on the neighborhoods. Have these neighborhoods seen new investment? Have new businesses moved in to the area? Is the City now collecting taxes that it wouldn't be collecting if the project didn't happen (i.e. head taxes, sales taxes, etc.)?

4) Ignore the economic impact for a moment...why doesn't he look at the other benefits to the City like new affordable housing units, new public facilities, parks, etc. that these TIF projects bring?

5) My favorite bit of silliness is Ben's attempt to prove "TIFs are tax hikes, plain and simple — the more you create, the higher taxes go." To do this Ben imagines a school that was collecting $100 in a TIF district but since their expenses go up to $200, and the TIF prevents them from collecting any taxes over $100 at the current property tax levy, the school system will have to raise tax rates if they want to collect $200. What's wrong with this example? Here's what's "wrong": the school system suddenly needs to spend 100% more than they did previously! Why this dramatic jump in spending? Ben doesn't say, but this is the underlying assumption behind all of Ben's angry articles -- that public institutions need more and more money to do their job. This is not the place to engage this assumption with the withering critique it deserves, but suffice it to say that I don't think our schools need 100% more money than they currently get from the taxpayers and I would guess that they could educate our kids for much less than they do now.

So my question for Ben is when is he going to write an article that honestly addresses the questions I raise, because until he does I will wonder why the "Reader" keeps publishing his articles...do the editors think its readers are "too apathetic to care or too stupid to figure out" Ben's turgid prose?

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Arminius at 9:48 AM on 11/6/2007

One more comment:

6) Ben doesn't give his readers at least one explaination to his readers why so much money is sitting in TIF coffers...the City needs to pay off bonds that have already been issued for projects that are now complete. Ben should explain how many TIFs use these bonds for projects because when a TIF is initially created, there is no "increment" to pay for projects. So the City borrows against this future increment and uses the proceeds up front for development. So a lot of the money "squirreled away" is already spent!

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Carter at 11:27 AM on 11/6/2007

Ben has addressed just about all of those points in detail in past stories. C'mon now, he only gets a few pages a week in the Reader, the NCBG needed dozens upon dozens of pages to provide the kind of comprehensive overview and analysis you're looking for.

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Carter at 11:30 AM on 11/6/2007

"What's wrong with this example? Here's what's "wrong": the school system suddenly needs to spend 100% more than they did previously! Why this dramatic jump in spending? Ben doesn't say, but this is the underlying assumption behind all of Ben's angry articles -- that public institutions need more and more money to do their job. This is not the place to engage this assumption with the withering critique it deserves, but suffice it to say that I don't think our schools need 100% more money than they currently get from the taxpayers and I would guess that they could educate our kids for much less than they do now."

Wow this does display a fundamental ignorance of human nature.

Inflation is a fact of life, you can't pin it on schools being lousy - it costs more money to eat, pay taxes (ahem) etc every year -

A simple question:

Would you work for less money every year when costs beyond your control were escalating?

I completely agree there are some problems in the schools that should be fixed, but increasing class sizes by firing teachers or paying teachers less aren't among them.

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Hugh at 11:33 AM on 11/6/2007

Arminius claims "a lot of the money "squirreled away" is already spent!" but then he doesn't bother to provide us readers with his analysis, meanwhile claiming "I can respect someone writing from the intellectually defensible position that TIFs ... should be less opaque ..."

what's "a lot"? how much? where is this documented? every try to find out how much of our TIF fund is committed? where are all our commitments in one place? what is the basis of your claim?

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Hugh at 11:40 AM on 11/6/2007

" ... has Ben done the analysis to determine whether or not the project funded would have occurred without the TIF (i.e. remember that TIFs are "used to encourage development and investment where it would not otherwise occur") and then analyzed the economic impact of these projects?... Ben assumes a static world."

No, it's TIF apologist that assume a static world. TIF beneficiaries assume the hypothetical that appreciation within a TIF will be FLAT "but for" and all property tax revenue increases are therefore the Miracle of TIF.

Quigley attempted an analysis of TIF by attempting to factor out obvious factors such as inflation and prevailing appreciation rates.

http://www.commissionerquigley.com/tif.shtm

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Hugh at 11:42 AM on 11/6/2007

"Another piece of lefty propaganda from Master B."

Wow. Accountability, transparency, tax fairness, and public corruption are lefty issues now?

Only in Chicago.

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Hugh at 11:47 AM on 11/6/2007

Excerpt from the City's propoganda:

Is TIF only used for private development?

No. TIF is used to fund many public projects, most notably the Chicago Housing Authority’s Plan for Transformation and the Chicago Public Schools "Modern Schools Throughout Chicago" initiative. TIF
is also used to build or improve CTA stations; build libraries, police stations, fire stations, and parks; improve streets, sidewalks and sewers; and install new street lighting.

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Hugh at 11:53 AM on 11/6/2007

This tyope of argument is typical of TIF apologists, a wave of the hands with no specifics, no numbers.

The number of schools that have benefited from TIF can be counted on one hand, the number of parks on the other, the number of public housing projects on another. to put this into perspective please recall there 156 TIFs in Chicago AND COUNTING! The biggest "public" TIF projects are Millennium Park and Block 37. The main contribution of Chicago's TIF program to Chicago is luxury condos. Chicago's TIF program has exacerbated the lack of affordable housing in Chicago.

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WILLPOWER at 7:10 AM on 11/7/2007

TIFs bring luxury condos.
luxury condos bring luxury people. Luxury people bring luxury money. Luxury Money brings luxury business. Luxury business brings luxury businesses. Luxury businesses bring luxury time. Luxury time brings the Chicago Reader. The Chicago Reader brings us Ben Joravsky.

I think I get it.

Why doesn't Ben simply go out and do something for the poor instead of whining away in a luxury newsrag that makes lots of their money on mainly young college agers looking to get laid and employed?

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DIFFERENT DRUM at 7:39 AM on 11/7/2007

Its easier to to theorize and accuse than to actually take action. That's why. Plus, it sells ads.

Millenium Park is a circus attraction that has worn thin.
Are we tired yet of looking at ourselves in the funhouse bean? Are we tired of trying to see the value in a "sculpture" by a very wealthy Spanish elite gallery scene artist that is essentially a sign from Times Square spitting water?
Are we entertained yet?


What does "TIF" stand for again?

Totally Inaccessible Funhouse?

Frank Gehry, the architect for Millenium Park's pavilion, just got sued by MIT for faulty construction and design on their building.
Perhaps we can get some of Chicago's TIF money back in that way too?

To hell with the poor! Let spend our time suing the City for spitting at us and putting up funhouse mirrors.

Now that's productive and worthwhile.

Damn straight!



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ARTLOVER at 7:48 AM on 11/7/2007

Bread and Circus distracts the people.
Unfortunately for some there is less bread than circus.

Why don't they save money next time and spare us the "bean" and the video wall? Lets let those exist inside the art museums and be paid for completely privately.

If they want to present circus attractions as art, lets just have a real circus or several each year.

People would like it better than the public art the elites at the City foist on everyone (unaccounted for).

Not that I have anything against their obviously highly trained taste.


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EB at 7:56 AM on 11/7/2007

Actually, I think we ought to look into City spending deeply and question all of it deeply. but I also think the poor should be our biggest priority. It is a Chicago tradition that stretches back to Jane Adams. It is being lost in all the shiny glitz and spurting.

The Chicago Reader is guilty of this too.

Slickos.

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Hugh at 11:36 AM on 11/7/2007

Carter, the homeowner exemptions you hear tersed about are MAXIMUMS, your mileage may vary. The homeowners exemption you see on your tax bill depends on the INCREASE in your equalized assessed valuation. The "tax calculator" printed on the tax bill does not help you understand where the homeowner's exemption number comes from.

The Tax Reform Action Coalition website has a worksheet that is dated but shows how the calculation is done.

http://www.geocities.com/trac_il/

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moneymonk at 12:54 PM on 11/7/2007

I haven't read all the comments, but uh... what are we going to do? How do we get the City and County to change?

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noblagofan at 2:40 PM on 11/7/2007

I'm no fan of our Governor, but he did just amenatorily veto SB1400, which extends a TIF in northwest Illinois, to require TIF disclosure info on property tax bills. You can read the veto message at www.ilga.gov. and then searching for the bill. For some reason, the full text of the veto is not posted yet.

Here's a summary:

Governor Amendatory Veto Message
Recommends that the Property Tax Code be amended to require that tax bills set forth certain disclosures concerning tax increment finance districts that the county or taxing authority deems to be appropriate. Recommends the limitation of home rule powers concerning the disclosures.

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re "Luxury newsrag" at 2:53 PM on 11/7/2007

"a luxury newsrag that makes lots of their money on mainly young college agers looking to get laid and employed?"

Um, how exactly does a FREE paper make money off of the young and unemployed?

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Hugh at 7:59 PM on 11/7/2007

Carter, the assessor put up a homeowner exemption calculator which is useful but also not as clear as it maybe could be.

http://www.cookcountyassessor.com

I think a better label for the "homeowner exemption" line in the "tax calculator" on the tax bill might be "tax savings due to homeowners exemption."

Sounds like you got a $40K exemption:

$40K times 5.302 City tax rate = $2120 savings

in other words you were taxed on your EAV above $40K

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Paul Randall at 2:13 AM on 11/8/2007

Numbers I'd like to see: 1) Since their inception what is the total amount of dollars that have flowed into the TIFFs in total, 2) How much has been allocated, 3) An accounting/audit of how/where/who every dollar has been allocated.

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WILLPOWER at 8:59 AM on 11/8/2007

Numbers I'd like to see from the Chicago Reader:
1) Income from advertising involving prostitution and/or the sex trade.
2) Demographic makeup of the reader staff in hard numbers and expressed as a percentage of Chicagoans.
3) Ethnic background of the staff at the Chicago Reader and their average income level.
4) Ratio of support staff to featured columnists/writers who are of a different ethnic/racial background.

This would help me to assess the focus and moral cause behind Chicago Reader topics.

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Arminius at 9:45 AM on 11/8/2007

WILLPOWER,

Are you making the claim that an individual must be of a particular race or ethnic background (or even income level) before you can assess their moral positions? How about evaluating a writer's moral positions on the use of the writer's reasoning, logic, and facts?

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Carter at 10:36 AM on 11/8/2007

thanks Hugh, I finally figured that out with a bit of assistance.

I'm still puzzled how one guy living a few blocks away only got a $150 bump and I got one over a grand, both of us have 100 year old houses, etc.

But then again, I know seeking logic within the current system is like tilting at windmills...

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Hugh at 11:16 AM on 11/8/2007

um, your neighbor hired a lawyer & you didn't?

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WILLPOWER at 5:24 PM on 11/8/2007

Arminius:
"Are you making the claim that an individual must be of a particular race or ethnic background (or even income level) before you can assess their moral positions? How about evaluating a writer's moral positions on the use of the writer's reasoning, logic, and facts?"

No. I'm not.
The sex trade info would help however.

If you read carefully you would have noticed that I said "help me to assess the focus and moral cause behind Chicago Reader topics".

No mention of moral positions of the writers.

These writers do spend a LOT of time on race topics. And a LOT of time on class issues. It helps us to know who they are. The world is not colorblind. And there is nothing good or right about being simply blind to race or class.

You aren't trying to say that the Chicago Reader writers are? ARE YOU?

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Looking for more info... at 4:23 PM on 11/12/2007

Ben,
I have a couple of questions -

Can TIF's have a positive impact on a blighted community without the threat of gentrification and the abuse of the taxpayers?

Would tifs work better with more government accountability?

What type of government can make TIFS work?
Thanks

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Irene at 8:54 PM on 11/12/2007

Intersted in seeing a TIF Advisory Council in action? The 53rd Street TIF Advisory Council is scheduled to meet on November 19th @ 7 pm at the Hyde Park Neighborhood CLub, 5480 S. Kenwood. This is not a developer driven TIF. ALl expenditures to date have supported: Canter Middle School, job training & neighborhood beautification and a Small Business Improvement Fund.

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Dane Wayne at 11:26 PM on 11/18/2007

Arminius, you say Mr. Joravsky is a Leftist?

I guess you should know.

This whole TIF square-dance is an abuse of government.

While the original intent, used in a limited scope, may have been honorable, Mayor Daley and the rest of his crew have used it as a land-grab and they have totally abused the original intent of the program. Most importantly it should NEVER be possible for ANY Cook County politician to acquire land and tax monies under such a scenario and then be in a position to disburse such accumulated tax payer money to ANYBODY "insiders" or outsider.

This whole scam is so inadequately audited it's disgusting and you sir are a horses ass in totally ignoring that fact in your so called "points".

You've failed in your sad attempt at brainwash us with that old tactic of "Ignore man behind the curtian or Don't believe you're eyes, believe what these schmoes in Cook County government tell you."

Additionally, Daley was in the right place at the right time. The resurgence of Chicago would have happened with him or with out him. People were going to return to the city no matter who was mayor. It had to do with baby boomers, the transfer of wealth from one generation to another and cycles. If anything, he as cost this City dearly. And time will prove that out pal.

FYI, I'm White, 49, a life long Chicagoan, I make over $100,000 annually and I'm neither a Democrat or a Republican. Oh yeah and I have respect for "hookers", those in the sex trade. While its a horrible way to make a living, I imagine, at least they're honest about screwing people, unlike the Mayor.

Respectfully,
DW

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Eper at 9:01 PM on 2/20/2008

i'm selling!
and living this City
as fast as posible!!!

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