With two family members in the current lineup, I'm probably biased, but you do need to go see the Boyzz these days. They'll be tearing up the Taste Of Chicago on July 2nd, and check out http://www.dirtydanbuckusa.com for more shows!
Dirty Dan and the Boyzz were one of my early influences of kick butt Rock and roll. 30ish years later, they're still blowing us away! They're a must see Gig!!!
I just saw the Boyzz at House of Blues, They were on Fire! I can not wait to see them at Taste of Chicago and Rib Fest..... Thanks Dirty Dan and the Boyzz for keeping us Rocking for all these years! You Guys are the best.
The original lineup of the Boyzz were the best live band I have ever seen in my life. Too bad they are not around anymore. I also must say that the Lost Boyzz really kick ass, and Mike Tafoya really has put together a great new band. I highly recommend to see them Live!!!
The Boyzz original lineup kicked ass. That band was great when I saw them back in the 70's. Since they are not around anymore, it breaks my heart. Dirt needs to get the original lineup back together! Please Dirt?? That would be the greatest reunion tour in a long time!
Man , those were the days. Back in the 70's, the Boyzz were the best band around.
Nowdays, the band has split up, and Dirt plays with new members of his band. But its not the same, not even close. Saw the show at House Of Blues, and I was highly dissapointed. For one thing, I thought it was going to be the original lineup when I heard that the Boyzz were opening for UFO. I showed up, paid my money, and then when the show started, it was only Dirt, with a bunch of people I never seen before up there with him. Not even the same caliber as the original lineup, it was quite sad. Oh well, atleast I have my Too Wild To Tame on Vinyl still, to relive the memories.
Dirt, bring the original lineup back. Bring the real Boyzz from Illinoizz back. We want that band back togetether, more powerful than ever! We miss the Boyzz, Dirt. Bring Back the Boyzz, make some phone calls. We want to see Dirty Dan, Dave Angel, Anatolie, Gil Pini, Kent Cooper, and Mike Tafoya on stage again one last time! Bring back the Boyzz, lets see you tear up the stage one last time, the way it should be done!
Of course it's not the Boyzz, It's Dirty Dan Buck of the Boyzz. As far as the original Boyzz lineup. They were fun days and nights on the road and home. I watch the live shows on DVD and always have such good fun with the memories. I miss the crew and the clubs as well as those absolutely crazy people who shows up each and every night the Boyzz played. As far as Dirt and Co. I wish those cats well and hope you come out to see us as well. There's more out there than tribute bands!
Those of you that don't care who's on stage will most likely enjoy the Dirt OF THE Boyzz thing. No, It's not the Boyzz and the Spirit is not there. Dirt's great at what he does, But he isn't the Boyzz and that's a shame! It's a tribute band at best."
My gang of friends from Sycamore/DeKalb spent many great nights seeing The Boyzz. We still talk about it when we see each other. Unfortunately we cannot recreate the past so enjoy Dirt & Mike for what they're doing know. phuquenay, people!
The BOYZZ were one of a kind. Had to see them 100 times. From Destined to Die to To Wild To Tame. Unbeleivable. They now are two separate bands that are both fantastic. One a fantastic showman with great energy, the other perfect musician. Both bands are great. God Bless them both. Go out and see them. It will be a night well spent!
I can still remember those nights sitting in a club waiting for The Boyzz to come out and play... Connie Francis singing "Where the Boyzz Are"...(sigh)...I miss those guyz!!
I've seen The Boyzz ( with Dirt), the new version, and Tafoya's Lost Boyzz. For my money, I'd Much rather see Screamin' Rachael perform "TOO WILD TO TAME". That Chick ROCKS!
Why the pissing contest? I 've seen both Dirt's Band and Mikes's band and they are both good and doing what they want to do. They are both a part of the Chicago history. Keep it up guys!!!
I have seen the original line-up of the Boyzz (very good) and the current line-up...take my word...the new line-up kicks some serious ASS! All of them are hugely talented musicians and shouldn't be missed. Dirt, you will always ROCK baby!
As much as I hate to say it, Dirty Dan and the Boyzz don't hold a candle to the original lineup. Cmon, all you gotta do is watch the old footage of the original lineup, and remember the shows that once were. Now Dirt has a bunch of fat, old men who can't move around up there, and some women who can't sing backup vocals. No thank you, I will just relive the memories with my old Boyzz videos and listen to my TOO WILD TO TAME On VINYL.
Dirty Dan's new band aint even the Boyzz. Its Dirty Dan of the Boyzz. Don't insult the legacy of the Boyzz by thinking that this new band is the same thing.
Dirt you really need to get the original lineup back or just get some new people to be in your band. You are really emberassing the Boyzz name. Just retire DIRT.
*sigh* Listen people. The original lineup will never happen. But thats ok. Its nice to have those kick ass memories on Dan and the rest of the original crew...(and there crazy stage antics!!)
However...the new lineup is a bunch of amazing musicians too. Sure they're old...so are we! They still ROCK and I love seeing them play. The guitars kick ass, the drummer is right on, the bass and keys sound killer, and the backround singers are sexy as hell...(and sound great with Dirty Dan).
So take them as they are. I can't wait to see them rock with Destined to Die and Lean N Mean at the Taste!!! Rock on always Dirty Dan!!!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but...Who the hell are YOU to say shit about music?? Embarassing the Boyzz name...are you kidding? Fat old men? well...duh, of course they are old you stupid fool! What do you want Dirt to do, hire a bunch of unprofessional twenty- somethings? All of these guys are extreamly talented, and have all grown up playing with Dirt at one point or another. Every single on of them are professional musicians who have made money with their music. What have you done my friend?
Like I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I'm not here to get into a pissing contest, but I couldn't help myself. Dirt my friend, you have played everywhere and with everyone from Aerosmith to Meatloaf. You are a true influence to so many...even friggen Axel Rose!! Rock forever, brother.
I am just a fan, yes, and I remember the Boyzz from way back when, and I just am sick and tired of watching Dirt's new band up there when I remember how great the original lineup was, and full of energy.
The new Lineup does nothing for me, its boring. The only one with any stage presence is Dirt. I am one of the biggest Boyzz fans around, but this band is not the Boyzz, its Dirty Dan of the Boyzz. One original member left.
Not my cup of tea, and quite frankly, after the House of Blues show, I will not spend one penny on them again. They are nothing compared to the Boyzz from Illinoizz at all.
True that BOyzzzzzzzzzz fan !!!! at 12:03 PM on 5/12/2008
I agree with Long Ago Boyzz fan, Dirt should retire. I mean, if you gotta go to the point of having a bunch of old farts up there, and can't hire any young guns who have the talent, and stage presence to be in your band and create some new refreshing material and energy, then its time to hang it up.
I'll make sure to keep an eye out for Dirty Dan of the Boyzz to be playing Nursing homes pretty soon.
Boy, there sure seems to be some really jealous and vendictive people out here! I will say that, yes, all of us that have seen the original Boyzz are getting to be the same age...why the mean spirited slam at Dirt and the rest of his band. I work in the music business and I will say that the musicians that are in Dirts band are all professional; the guitar player, John Abel can play rings around any guitar player around with one hand!; the girls are all professional singers as well; I can't say enough good things about the rest of the band; I see bands every week and it will be the best money spent to go see this band...
So to "Long ago Boyzz Fan"...you are obviously getting old yourself and have some hearing loss if you think that this band isn't worth hearing! And I am sure they will not miss your presence at any of their upcoming shows!
This is NUTZZ!! Stop the bull, please. There's room for everyone here to enjoy what they want. My band is not doing the Boyzz material to justify our being here and Dirt's band is doind just fine with what they're doing. I personally don't give a darn what his thing is and I won't get into mud slinging. Please don't write mean spirited things, it's not a smart thing to expose of yourself and someone might get the wrong attitude about us and them. SO..... M.T.
Give me a break, you honestly are telling me that Dirt's band is as good as the Boyzz from Illinoizz? You must be fucking blind and deaf! I will put this as honestly as I can.
The Boyzz from Illinoizz were a kick ass band. Every member of that band was the best at what they did. No one was better.
Now we have Dirt's new band, which sad to say, is no comparison to the Boyzz from Illinoizz. They don't have the stage presence, they can't play their parts as well, and they don't even write their own songs. They are just paying tribute to the Boyzz from Illinoizz.
You are telling me that John Abel can play circles around any other guitar player? Are you on crack? Seriously, what dream world are you living in? Tafoya still is playing, and John attempts to play Tafoya's parts, and does it half ass. Plus he can't even move aroudn on fucking stage either. Should think about getting in some shape.
Lets see, who else. I don't see any Dave Angel up there, or Gil Pini, no one is even close to the playing ability in Dirt's new lineup as Dave and Gil. And then the Keyboard player? He isn't any Anatolie, I will tell you that.
I just call it like it is. I have been a Boyzz fan from the very beginning, and no one can beat the original lineup.
But yes, see those bands you listed, are old now in age, But they can still rock, and have the look. Dirty Dan and his little band have nothing on those bands you listed. They wish they could be those bands. So keep on playing your little festivals, and making jokes out of yourself Dirty Dan. You once were great, but now are just a joke. I speak the truth.
This didn't need to turn into a discussion of the Boyzz. Anyone who wants to hear "Too Wild to Tame" for the 4,357th time can, if they wish, go to the Taste of Chicago and do so.
I for one would like to see some comments about the Vertebrats, the actual subject of the post.
I'm a longtime Vb fan and have often wondered how the boys' lives would have been had they made the big time. I'm content to relisten to what they have done and to look forward to their next live performance. Anyone who hasn't experienced them should check them out on YouTube.
The Vertebrats were four extremely talented young men at a crossroads in an era of limited music alternatives. Chicago wasn’t a hotbed of new music in the late 1970s and national and international exposure was difficult without major label backing. The prevailing thought at the time was that a band must have a long-term commitment to persevere while continuously playing little dumps and dives until discovered (Cheap Trick comes to mind). But some discovered that approach wasn’t always necessary.
In 1977 the B52s, like the Vertebrats, hailing from a college town, took their ultra cool party-dance act to New York City where after a time Warner Bros. signed them. They became an overnight success, benefiting emerging Athens-based acts like REM as well. The Vertebrats had the talent - and were developing as writers and musicians - but did they have the audacity to hold out for their moment?
I’ve always believed if the Vertebrats had been willing to "suffer" a couple years longer then they would have prevailed in a huge way both creatively and economically. The boys (no Z) were intelligent but splintered in key aspects of commitment and the elder members had alternatives to their music in place.
Their lack of commitment to their dreams as a band - at a critical moment – ended the project. All the Vertebrats are talented and contributed mightily to the band. Matt at 14 years old was brilliant on guitar and on stage, and Ken still stands tall as a composer and interpreter of his music.
My own opinion is that if the VB’s had decided to gut it out, they would have become the new Beatles (prolific song writing and song quality). They would have created even more amazing work, and would have gone on to inspire (as very inclusive, generous people) many more musicians and artists than they already had. Their legacy would be confirmed for posterity on a national level and today they’d be dragging their 40-50 year old carcasses onstage with Tom Petty at the United Center. But what do I know; I’m just a fan.
P.S. On a personal note, if the past 26 years has taught me anything, is that it’s never too late to create…or rock out.
Well the comments on this page are for all editions of the SHOCM, not just the Vertebrats--check the dates.
It made my day to be flipping through the Reader on the train this morning and stumble on this piece. Many fine memories of my older sister playing their songs on cassette around the house.
I spent a lot of nights at Mabel's listening to the Vertebrats. They were a terrific live band and definitely had the songwriting skills to make it big. This is in the liner notes of one of their compilations (Parasol Records?), but even their last show (most of the audience, including me, did not know it was the last show) had a twist. They played all the songs in alphabetical order.
Their originals were terrific (Left in the Dark, Any Day Now, Diamonds in the Rough, and Jackie's Gone) and they did some killer covers (Secret Agent Man, Like a Hurricane).
Like I said, I spent a lot of time (and beer money) at Mabel's watching these guys.
I also spent many nights listening to the 'Brats at Mabel's. They were pretty much the hippest thing in C-U. They did great covers, too. Anyone remember their version of "Cleopatra" (Jonathan Richman, I believe) or Secret Agent Man? Also, any Outnumbered fans out there? Ah, memories, memories....
Music lovers out there should check out "Electrified: The Story of the Maxwell Street Urban Blues", which details the birth of the electric blues in Chicago and how that led to rock & roll. Bo Diddley is featured in this magnificent documentary, the "definitive" film about the Chicago blues scene. This was Bo's LAST INTERVIEW EVER and director, Phil Ranstrom, captured this just before Bo had a major stroke and could no longer speak. For the real deal, check out www.ElectrifiedTheMovie.com
yes, that's true...if you want the "secret history" of Chicago music, that's what the film 'Electrified' is all about. I saw it and it's incredible.. all this Bo Diddley info and about how Led Zepp stole Whole Lotta Love from Muddy Waters. Amazing history we have in Chicago, but nobody knows about it.
Everything in life is timing and the Vertebrats had both great timing and poor timing. It was a different time in terms of recording and exposure---perhaps if they'd started a year or two down the road they could have captured label/national interest. The interest in them so many years later certainly speaks to the strength of both their music and their performances.
Their timing was great however in the sense that when they started there was a void and they drew so many people together and really created a special time and place. The last reunion made me realize that it wasn't mere nostalgia---it really was a great group of intelligent, interesting people---band and fans alike. So the timing may have been part of what made them so special as well as what kept them from a larger audience...
That being said...many bands that got signed and put records out, etc. don't have anything close to the still faithful fanbase and interest that the Vertebrats have today....
He does get a shout-out on that Beastie Boys' song: "Just Plug Me In Just Like I Was Eddie Harris You're Eating Crazy Cheese Like You'd Think I'm From Paris" -- for what it's worth.
Some of you may have already heard that I’m writing a book on the history of Chicago music. The working title is: The Chicago Music Scene of the 1960s and ‘70s. It will be published by Arcadia Publishing as part of their Images of America series.
http://www.arcadiapublishing.com/
The book will cover Chicago as well as its suburbs probably within a 30 mile radius. As of now, it will include an Introduction and six chapters:
Rock and Roll Jazz Folk Blues and R&B Country Bluegrass (Country and Bluegrass may possibly be combined as one chapter depending on how much material there is or isn’t.)
This is where all of you come in. The editor wants the book to be heavy on photographs, as all the books in their series are. I am going to need as many photos from that two decade era as I can find. I need original publicity photos of performers from that time (some of you fit that bill), I need photos of the popular clubs and I need photos of advertisements, posters and handbills. The focus of the book will be on the local performers, some of whom made it big, some who made their mark and disappeared and some who are still performing. I would like to include all those performers in the book in some way and of course, anyone who sends me information I can use will be credited.
I also need contacts in all the various genres. If any of you know people who were involved in the music scene from that era, be it jazz, country or any of the different types of music, please help me contact them. I want to get their stories in the book.
I need to find the old jazz and blues players who are still with us. I need to contact bands like the Buckinghams, Cryan Shames, etc., even the radio DJ’s from that period.
I’m including sketchy idea of the book’s Introduction and a rough list of performers and clubs I’ve put together to give you an idea of what I already have and what I need. I know many are missing and please don’t be offended if your name is not on the list. I’ll get it on there, but I need your help. I know I’ve left out some obvious ones, so assume that this list is just a start.
And once the book is finished, an exciting event may follow, so stay tuned for that.
Thanks in advance for all your help as I know many of you will be as excited as I am about documenting this important period of Chicago musical history.
Sincerely,
Dean Milano
Chicago Music Scene 1960s – 1970s
This is the story of the Chicago music scene of two decades- the 1960s and ‘70s, an incredibly vibrant period in urban and suburban music scenes across the country and throughout the world. Enough has been written about the national and international acts of that time, but little is written regarding local music scenes. This story will focus on the Chicago club scene and the homegrown performers who made it one of the most electrifying and memorable periods in music history. Some of them went all the way to "the big time" while others made their mark and disappeared. But they all made a difference in their own way and for those who were there, it’s a time they will never forget.
Some of the earliest clubs of the ‘60s and ‘70s Chicago scene (Mr.Kelly’s, the RR Ranch, the Gate of Horn) were holdovers of an earlier era when nightclubbing was a more formal event which involved dressing up and heading downtown for a special evening. By the mid 1960s, the scene had begun to radically change and so did the atmosphere of the clubs. No longer were patrons seated by a host or hostess and led to a cozy table in a smoke filled room for an evening show. The smoke still remained, but an informal atmosphere of wandering in and out and socializing during the show became more common, particularly in the rock and roll clubs, which were evolving along with the much more laid back attitude that was permeating the younger generation.
Most of the clubs are gone now, but a few are still hanging on preserving what remains of a once great music scene.
Dean, I'm trying to find information about a club called Barnaby's, where the group that eventually became "Chicago" played in 1967 and 1968. Do you have any info on where Barnaby's was, etc.?
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Dayna Abel at 11:42 AM on 4/28/2008
With two family members in the current lineup, I'm probably biased, but you do need to go see the Boyzz these days. They'll be tearing up the Taste Of Chicago on July 2nd, and check out http://www.dirtydanbuckusa.com for more shows!
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mike young at 1:47 PM on 4/28/2008
Dirty Dan and the Boyzz were one of my early influences of kick butt Rock and roll. 30ish years later, they're still blowing us away! They're a must see Gig!!!
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Ria at 2:13 PM on 4/28/2008
I just saw the Boyzz at House of Blues, They were on Fire! I can not wait to see them at Taste of Chicago and Rib Fest..... Thanks Dirty Dan and the Boyzz for keeping us Rocking for all these years! You Guys are the best.
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Nicholas Romero at 10:35 AM on 4/29/2008
The original lineup of the Boyzz were the best live band I have ever seen in my life. Too bad they are not around anymore. I also must say that the Lost Boyzz really kick ass, and Mike Tafoya really has put together a great new band. I highly recommend to see them Live!!!
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Wayne Sepcot at 12:18 PM on 4/29/2008
Dirty Dan and the Boyzz friggin rocked out the House of Blues. See y'all at Ribfest and the Taste!!
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Wally at 12:35 PM on 4/29/2008
The Boyzz original lineup kicked ass. That band was great when I saw them back in the 70's. Since they are not around anymore, it breaks my heart. Dirt needs to get the original lineup back together! Please Dirt?? That would be the greatest reunion tour in a long time!
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Sue at 1:17 PM on 4/29/2008
Man , those were the days. Back in the 70's, the Boyzz were the best band around.
Nowdays, the band has split up, and Dirt plays with new members of his band. But its not the same, not even close. Saw the show at House Of Blues, and I was highly dissapointed. For one thing, I thought it was going to be the original lineup when I heard that the Boyzz were opening for UFO. I showed up, paid my money, and then when the show started, it was only Dirt, with a bunch of people I never seen before up there with him. Not even the same caliber as the original lineup, it was quite sad. Oh well, atleast I have my Too Wild To Tame on Vinyl still, to relive the memories.
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Boyzz from Illinoizz fan at 2:14 PM on 4/29/2008
Dirt, bring the original lineup back. Bring the real Boyzz from Illinoizz back. We want that band back togetether, more powerful than ever! We miss the Boyzz, Dirt. Bring Back the Boyzz, make some phone calls. We want to see Dirty Dan, Dave Angel, Anatolie, Gil Pini, Kent Cooper, and Mike Tafoya on stage again one last time! Bring back the Boyzz, lets see you tear up the stage one last time, the way it should be done!
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Mike Tafoya at 12:32 PM on 4/30/2008
Of course it's not the Boyzz, It's Dirty Dan Buck of the Boyzz. As far as the original Boyzz lineup. They were fun days and nights on the road and home. I watch the live shows on DVD and always have such good fun with the memories. I miss the crew and the clubs as well as those absolutely crazy people who shows up each and every night the Boyzz played. As far as Dirt and Co. I wish those cats well and hope you come out to see us as well. There's more out there than tribute bands!
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Kathy Cone at 1:12 PM on 4/30/2008
Those of you that don't care who's on stage will most likely enjoy the Dirt OF THE Boyzz thing.
No, It's not the Boyzz and the Spirit is not there. Dirt's great at what he does, But he isn't the Boyzz and that's a shame! It's a tribute band at best."
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Ricky Snipes at 2:46 PM on 5/1/2008
Will the Boyzz ever put away their differences and get back together please?
I sure hope so.
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John Smith at 9:26 AM on 5/2/2008
My gang of friends from Sycamore/DeKalb spent many great nights seeing The Boyzz. We still talk about it when we see each other. Unfortunately we cannot recreate the past so enjoy Dirt & Mike for what they're doing know. phuquenay, people!
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Chris Kolb at 2:40 PM on 5/2/2008
The BOYZZ were one of a kind. Had to see them 100 times. From Destined to Die to To Wild To Tame. Unbeleivable. They now are two separate bands that are both fantastic. One a fantastic showman with great energy, the other perfect musician. Both bands are great. God Bless them both. Go out and see them. It will be a night well spent!
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FEEDBACK at 3:37 PM on 5/2/2008
if we cant have original at least bring back the GP SKENDER backbone
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Lena at 7:56 PM on 5/3/2008
I can still remember those nights sitting in a club waiting for
The Boyzz to come out and play...
Connie Francis singing "Where the Boyzz Are"...(sigh)...I miss those guyz!!
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Dayton Osland at 3:00 AM on 5/4/2008
If you'd like an e-mail reminding you of where Tafoya's Lost BoyZZ are playing - send your email to: bookings@gadjetproductions.com
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Jon at 7:19 PM on 5/5/2008
I've seen The Boyzz ( with Dirt), the new version, and Tafoya's Lost Boyzz. For my money, I'd Much rather see Screamin' Rachael perform "TOO WILD TO TAME". That Chick ROCKS!
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A Music Fan at 7:47 PM on 5/5/2008
Why the pissing contest? I 've seen both Dirt's Band and Mikes's band and they are both good and doing what they want to do. They are both a part of the Chicago history. Keep it up guys!!!
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MT at 1:49 PM on 5/6/2008
That's a cool CAT! There's room for everybody to have a Great Time.
Rock andd Roll
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Rock-It Babe at 4:59 AM on 5/7/2008
I have seen the original line-up of the Boyzz (very good) and the current line-up...take my word...the new line-up kicks some serious ASS! All of them are hugely talented musicians and shouldn't be missed. Dirt, you will always ROCK baby!
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Long ago Boyzz fan at 4:28 PM on 5/8/2008
As much as I hate to say it, Dirty Dan and the Boyzz don't hold a candle to the original lineup. Cmon, all you gotta do is watch the old footage of the original lineup, and remember the shows that once were. Now Dirt has a bunch of fat, old men who can't move around up there, and some women who can't sing backup vocals. No thank you, I will just relive the memories with my old Boyzz videos and listen to my TOO WILD TO TAME On VINYL.
Dirty Dan's new band aint even the Boyzz. Its Dirty Dan of the Boyzz. Don't insult the legacy of the Boyzz by thinking that this new band is the same thing.
Dirt you really need to get the original lineup back or just get some new people to be in your band. You are really emberassing the Boyzz name. Just retire DIRT.
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Fan of Dirt at 5:19 PM on 5/10/2008
*sigh* Listen people. The original lineup will never happen. But thats ok. Its nice to have those kick ass memories on Dan and the rest of the original crew...(and there crazy stage antics!!)
However...the new lineup is a bunch of amazing musicians too. Sure they're old...so are we! They still ROCK and I love seeing them play. The guitars kick ass, the drummer is right on, the bass and keys sound killer, and the backround singers are sexy as hell...(and sound great with Dirty Dan).
So take them as they are. I can't wait to see them rock with Destined to Die and Lean N Mean at the Taste!!! Rock on always Dirty Dan!!!
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Music Girl at 5:35 PM on 5/10/2008
In reply to Long Ago Boyzz Fan:
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but...Who the hell are YOU to say shit about music?? Embarassing the Boyzz name...are you kidding? Fat old men? well...duh, of course they are old you stupid fool! What do you want Dirt to do, hire a bunch of unprofessional twenty- somethings? All of these guys are extreamly talented, and have all grown up playing with Dirt at one point or another. Every single on of them are professional musicians who have made money with their music. What have you done my friend?
Like I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I'm not here to get into a pissing contest, but I couldn't help myself. Dirt my friend, you have played everywhere and with everyone from Aerosmith to Meatloaf. You are a true influence to so many...even friggen Axel Rose!! Rock forever, brother.
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Long Ago Boyzz Fan at 11:53 AM on 5/12/2008
To Music Girl :
I am just a fan, yes, and I remember the Boyzz from way back when, and I just am sick and tired of watching Dirt's new band up there when I remember how great the original lineup was, and full of energy.
The new Lineup does nothing for me, its boring. The only one with any stage presence is Dirt. I am one of the biggest Boyzz fans around, but this band is not the Boyzz, its Dirty Dan of the Boyzz. One original member left.
Not my cup of tea, and quite frankly, after the House of Blues show, I will not spend one penny on them again. They are nothing compared to the Boyzz from Illinoizz at all.
Oh well, time to move on.
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True that BOyzzzzzzzzzz fan !!!! at 12:03 PM on 5/12/2008
I agree with Long Ago Boyzz fan, Dirt should retire. I mean, if you gotta go to the point of having a bunch of old farts up there, and can't hire any young guns who have the talent, and stage presence to be in your band and create some new refreshing material and energy, then its time to hang it up.
I'll make sure to keep an eye out for Dirty Dan of the Boyzz to be playing Nursing homes pretty soon.
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PPrince at 3:07 PM on 5/13/2008
Boy, there sure seems to be some really jealous and vendictive people out here! I will say that, yes, all of us that have seen the original Boyzz are getting to be the same age...why the mean spirited slam at Dirt and the rest of his band. I work in the music business and I will say that the musicians that are in Dirts band are all professional; the guitar player, John Abel can play rings around any guitar player around with one hand!; the girls are all professional singers as well; I can't say enough good things about the rest of the band; I see bands every week and it will be the best money spent to go see this band...
So to "Long ago Boyzz Fan"...you are obviously getting old yourself and have some hearing loss if you think that this band isn't worth hearing! And I am sure they will not miss your presence at any of their upcoming shows!
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Shut up at 12:07 PM on 5/14/2008
Abel doesn't even know the names of the notes on his guitar past the second fret marker.
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nutZZ at 1:06 PM on 5/14/2008
This is NUTZZ!! Stop the bull, please. There's room for everyone here to enjoy what they want. My band is not doing the Boyzz material to justify our being here and Dirt's band is doind just fine with what they're doing. I personally don't give a darn what his thing is and I won't get into mud slinging. Please don't write mean spirited things, it's not a smart thing to expose of yourself and someone might get the wrong attitude about us and them. SO.....
M.T.
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sausageman at 2:19 PM on 5/14/2008
It's good to know that the vast majorities of haters here can still achieve a new level of mediocrity.
Move on folks, nothing else to see here.
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The Truth at 4:00 PM on 5/14/2008
Give me a break, you honestly are telling me that Dirt's band is as good as the Boyzz from Illinoizz? You must be fucking blind and deaf! I will put this as honestly as I can.
The Boyzz from Illinoizz were a kick ass band. Every member of that band was the best at what they did. No one was better.
Now we have Dirt's new band, which sad to say, is no comparison to the Boyzz from Illinoizz. They don't have the stage presence, they can't play their parts as well, and they don't even write their own songs. They are just paying tribute to the Boyzz from Illinoizz.
You are telling me that John Abel can play circles around any other guitar player? Are you on crack? Seriously, what dream world are you living in? Tafoya still is playing, and John attempts to play Tafoya's parts, and does it half ass. Plus he can't even move aroudn on fucking stage either. Should think about getting in some shape.
Lets see, who else. I don't see any Dave Angel up there, or Gil Pini, no one is even close to the playing ability in Dirt's new lineup as Dave and Gil. And then the Keyboard player? He isn't any Anatolie, I will tell you that.
I just call it like it is. I have been a Boyzz fan from the very beginning, and no one can beat the original lineup.
Stop emberassing the Boyzz name!
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^^^^ HA HA HA at 4:13 PM on 5/14/2008
Yes, I laugh cause its true. The Truth hurts. The Boyzz were great, but this new band, man, it just does the original no justice.
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OH MY GOD at 7:09 PM on 5/21/2008
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Mike North at 10:38 PM on 5/31/2008
Old rockers? Ever see the Who? Stones? Moody Blues? REO? Styx? Chicago?
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The truth at 11:44 AM on 6/2/2008
But yes, see those bands you listed, are old now in age, But they can still rock, and have the look. Dirty Dan and his little band have nothing on those bands you listed. They wish they could be those bands. So keep on playing your little festivals, and making jokes out of yourself Dirty Dan. You once were great, but now are just a joke. I speak the truth.
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Vertebrats fan at 4:40 PM on 6/5/2008
This didn't need to turn into a discussion of the Boyzz. Anyone who wants to hear "Too Wild to Tame" for the 4,357th time can, if they wish, go to the Taste of Chicago and do so.
I for one would like to see some comments about the Vertebrats, the actual subject of the post.
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Let's hear it 4 the Verts at 1:08 PM on 6/6/2008
A very cool band, and a great piece. Let's hear fom some of the fans that were at their shows.
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Bob at 2:02 PM on 6/6/2008
I'm a longtime Vb fan and have often wondered how the boys' lives would have been had they made the big time. I'm content to relisten to what they have done and to look forward to their next live performance. Anyone who hasn't experienced them should check them out on YouTube.
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Kent at 8:40 PM on 6/7/2008
The Vertebrats were four extremely talented young men at a crossroads in an era of limited music alternatives. Chicago wasn’t a hotbed of new music in the late 1970s and national and international exposure was difficult without major label backing. The prevailing thought at the time was that a band must have a long-term commitment to persevere while continuously playing little dumps and dives until discovered (Cheap Trick comes to mind). But some discovered that approach wasn’t always necessary.
In 1977 the B52s, like the Vertebrats, hailing from a college town, took their ultra cool party-dance act to New York City where after a time Warner Bros. signed them. They became an overnight success, benefiting emerging Athens-based acts like REM as well. The Vertebrats had the talent - and were developing as writers and musicians - but did they have the audacity to hold out for their moment?
I’ve always believed if the Vertebrats had been willing to "suffer" a couple years longer then they would have prevailed in a huge way both creatively and economically. The boys (no Z) were intelligent but splintered in key aspects of commitment and the elder members had alternatives to their music in place.
Their lack of commitment to their dreams as a band - at a critical moment – ended the project. All the Vertebrats are talented and contributed mightily to the band. Matt at 14 years old was brilliant on guitar and on stage, and Ken still stands tall as a composer and interpreter of his music.
My own opinion is that if the VB’s had decided to gut it out, they would have become the new Beatles (prolific song writing and song quality). They would have created even more amazing work, and would have gone on to inspire (as very inclusive, generous people) many more musicians and artists than they already had. Their legacy would be confirmed for posterity on a national level and today they’d be dragging their 40-50 year old carcasses onstage with Tom Petty at the United Center. But what do I know; I’m just a fan.
P.S. On a personal note, if the past 26 years has taught me anything, is that it’s never too late to create…or rock out.
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Aaron at 10:09 AM on 6/9/2008
Well the comments on this page are for all editions of the SHOCM, not just the Vertebrats--check the dates.
It made my day to be flipping through the Reader on the train this morning and stumble on this piece. Many fine memories of my older sister playing their songs on cassette around the house.
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U of Illinois Jim at 1:03 PM on 6/10/2008
I spent a lot of nights at Mabel's listening to the Vertebrats. They were a terrific live band and definitely had the songwriting skills to make it big. This is in the liner notes of one of their compilations (Parasol Records?), but even their last show (most of the audience, including me, did not know it was the last show) had a twist. They played all the songs in alphabetical order.
Their originals were terrific (Left in the Dark, Any Day Now, Diamonds in the Rough, and Jackie's Gone) and they did some killer covers (Secret Agent Man, Like a Hurricane).
Like I said, I spent a lot of time (and beer money) at Mabel's watching these guys.
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Tom C at 8:57 PM on 6/13/2008
I also spent many nights listening to the 'Brats at Mabel's. They were pretty much the hippest thing in C-U. They did great covers, too. Anyone remember their version of "Cleopatra" (Jonathan Richman, I believe) or Secret Agent Man? Also, any Outnumbered fans out there? Ah, memories, memories....
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Whitey at 11:47 AM on 6/19/2008
thanks for the tribute...another nice piece from the Plastic man...
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George at 11:51 AM on 6/19/2008
Music lovers out there should check out "Electrified: The Story of the Maxwell Street Urban Blues", which details the birth of the electric blues in Chicago and how that led to rock & roll. Bo Diddley is featured in this magnificent documentary, the "definitive" film about the Chicago blues scene. This was Bo's LAST INTERVIEW EVER and director, Phil Ranstrom, captured this just before Bo had a major stroke and could no longer speak. For the real deal, check out www.ElectrifiedTheMovie.com
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Chery at 10:00 AM on 6/20/2008
yes, that's true...if you want the "secret history" of Chicago music, that's what the film 'Electrified' is all about. I saw it and it's incredible.. all this Bo Diddley info and about how Led Zepp stole Whole Lotta Love from Muddy Waters. Amazing history we have in Chicago, but nobody knows about it.
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Valpo Pie Eater at 10:24 AM on 6/21/2008
I saw the Boyzz open for The Runaways at a bar in Dundee.
The Runaways were great.
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Cynthia at 9:32 AM on 6/25/2008
Everything in life is timing and the Vertebrats had both great timing and poor timing. It was a different time in terms of recording and exposure---perhaps if they'd started a year or two down the road they could have captured label/national interest. The interest in them so many years later certainly speaks to the strength of both their music and their performances.
Their timing was great however in the sense that when they started there was a void and they drew so many people together and really created a special time and place. The last reunion made me realize that it wasn't mere nostalgia---it really was a great group of intelligent, interesting people---band and fans alike. So the timing may have been part of what made them so special as well as what kept them from a larger audience...
That being said...many bands that got signed and put records out, etc. don't have anything close to the still faithful fanbase and interest that the Vertebrats have today....
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Stuart at 8:20 AM on 7/8/2008
He does get a shout-out on that Beastie Boys' song: "Just Plug Me In Just Like I Was Eddie Harris You're Eating Crazy
Cheese Like You'd Think I'm From Paris" -- for what it's worth.
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Dean Milano at 10:23 AM on 7/27/2008
Hello fellow musicians and music fans-
Some of you may have already heard that I’m writing a book on the history of Chicago music. The working title is: The Chicago Music Scene of the 1960s and ‘70s. It will be published by Arcadia Publishing as part of their Images of America series.
http://www.arcadiapublishing.com/
The book will cover Chicago as well as its suburbs probably within a 30 mile radius. As of now, it will include an Introduction and six chapters:
Rock and Roll
Jazz
Folk
Blues and R&B
Country
Bluegrass (Country and Bluegrass may possibly be combined as one chapter depending on how much material there is or isn’t.)
This is where all of you come in. The editor wants the book to be heavy on photographs, as all the books in their series are. I am going to need as many photos from that two decade era as I can find.
I need original publicity photos of performers from that time (some of you fit that bill), I need photos of the popular clubs and I need photos of advertisements, posters and handbills.
The focus of the book will be on the local performers, some of whom made it big, some who made their mark and disappeared and some who are still performing. I would like to include all those performers in the book in some way and of course, anyone who sends me information I can use will be credited.
I also need contacts in all the various genres. If any of you know people who were involved in the music scene from that era, be it jazz, country or any of the different types of music, please help me contact them. I want to get their stories in the book.
I need to find the old jazz and blues players who are still with us. I need to contact bands like the Buckinghams, Cryan Shames, etc., even the radio DJ’s from that period.
I’m including sketchy idea of the book’s Introduction and a rough list of performers and clubs I’ve put together to give you an idea of what I already have and what I need. I know many are missing and please don’t be offended if your name is not on the list. I’ll get it on there, but I need your help. I know I’ve left out some obvious ones, so assume that this list is just a start.
And once the book is finished, an exciting event may follow, so stay tuned for that.
Thanks in advance for all your help as I know many of you will be as excited as I am about documenting this important period of Chicago musical history.
Sincerely,
Dean Milano
Chicago Music Scene
1960s – 1970s
This is the story of the Chicago music scene of two decades- the 1960s and ‘70s, an incredibly vibrant period in urban and suburban music scenes across the country and throughout the world.
Enough has been written about the national and international acts of that time, but little is written regarding local music scenes.
This story will focus on the Chicago club scene and the homegrown performers who made it one of the most electrifying and memorable periods in music history. Some of them went all the way to "the big time" while others made their mark and disappeared. But they all made a difference in their own way and for those who were there, it’s a time they will never forget.
Some of the earliest clubs of the ‘60s and ‘70s Chicago scene (Mr.Kelly’s, the RR Ranch, the Gate of Horn) were holdovers of an earlier era when nightclubbing was a more formal event which involved dressing up and heading downtown for a special evening.
By the mid 1960s, the scene had begun to radically change and so did the atmosphere of the clubs. No longer were patrons seated by a host or hostess and led to a cozy table in a smoke filled room for an evening show. The smoke still remained, but an informal atmosphere of wandering in and out and socializing during the show became more common, particularly in the rock and roll clubs, which were evolving along with the much more laid back attitude that was permeating the younger generation.
Most of the clubs are gone now, but a few are still hanging on preserving what remains of a once great music scene.
THE LIST (The proverbial tip of the iceberg)
Clubs:
Mr. Kelly’s
The Jazz Showcase
Playboy club
Green Dolphin
Green Mill
Andy’s
Gate of Horn
Ringside Ranch
Mother Blues
Checkerboard Lounge
Buddy Guy’s
Kingston Mines
The Jaguar
The Mother Duck
The Cellar
The Wild Goose
The Blue Village
DuPage fairgrounds
Haymakers
Electric Theater/Kinetic Playground
Avalon Ballroom
The Cheetah/Aragon ballroom
Earl of Old Town
Somebody Else’s Troubles
Orphans
The Bulls
Barbarossa
Holsteins
Ratsos
Sylvesters
No Exit
The Spot
Wise Fools Pub
Abbey Pub
Biddy Mulligans
Heartland Café
2 Way Street
Clearwater Saloon
The Big Banjo
Nashville North
Mr. Kileys
Bands and performers:
Jimmy Atlas
Judy Roberts
Gibson and Camp
Bonnie Koloc
Steve Goodman
John Prine
Michael Johnson
Michael Smith
Buckinghams
Cyran’ Shames
Baby Huey and the Babysitters
New Colony Six
H.P. Lovecraft
Bangor Flying Circus
The Mauds
Saturdays Children
The Shadows of Knight
Styx
The Flock
The Riddles
Buddy Guy
Eddie Clearwater
Grope
Fire/ Hang Five
Rokko and the Hat
Big Twist
The Jamestown Massacre
Illinois Speedpress
Aorta
The Sundowners
Greater Chicago Bluegrass Band
Special Consensus
Scuttlebucket Band
Buck’s Stove and Range
Jump ‘n the Saddle
Casualaires
Mike Jordan and the Rockamatics
Laketown Buskers
Care of the Cow
Redhead
Ezra Quantine
Famous Potatoes
Chris Farrell
Marty Peifer
Al Day
Harry Waller
Claudia Schmidt
Mick Scott
Jeff Jones
Byron Roche
Tricia Alexander
Ed and Fred Holstein
Art Theime
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Scotti at 10:57 PM on 8/24/2008
Dean, I'm trying to find information about a club called Barnaby's, where the group that eventually became "Chicago" played in 1967 and 1968. Do you have any info on where Barnaby's was, etc.?
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Dean Milano at 9:58 PM on 8/30/2008
Scotti- I do recall Barnaby's but I don't remember where it was. Thanks for reminding me of it though, as I will now give it a mention in the book.
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