
Social Justice, With Soccer
A Chilean filmmaker explores the Middle East conflict through the eyes of Palestinian footballers.
By Ed M. Koziarski April 3, 2008
Growing up under military dictatorship in Chile—which, you might be surprised to learn, is home to some half a million Palestinians—Marcelo Piña always felt an affinity for the Palestinian people. So when the Palestinian soccer team began courting Chilean players to improve its chances of competing in the 2006 World Cup, he saw it as an opportunity to humanize their plight. “People have become numb to the conflict,” Piña says. “They hear about it all the time, but they don’t know the chronology or what it’s about. Football is a language that a lot of people understand.” Free Kick, Piña’s first documentary, gets its U.S. premiere Saturday at the 24th annual Chicago Latino Film Festival (sidebar). Shot over nearly three years, it focuses on five players on the Palestinian national team—from Jerusalem, Gaza, the West Bank, the Askar refugee camp, and Santiago, Chile—and the daily indignities and personal tragedies they endure in the occupied territories. “The people there are striving to have a normal life,” Piña says. “They want to go to work and play football and go to university. . . . With this documentary, I thought we could put the face of a regular person—an athlete trying to play football to represent his country—going through all these ordeals just to kick a ball around.”
The team’s journey began in 1998 when FIFA, the World Cup’s governing body, granted the Palestinian team accreditation for the first time since 1940—effectively recognizing Palestine as an independent state. Nicola Hadwa, a second-division Chilean coach born in Beit Jala, was hired to manage the team in 2002. Because the region had no professional league to encourage new talent and Israeli forces imposed tight restrictions on movement in the area, Hadwa sought players from across the Palestinian diaspora, particularly in South America. The campaign brought in the likes of Roberto Bishara, a star defender from Santiago, and greatly improved the team’s chances of representing Palestine in the World Cup.
Piña began documenting the team’s progress in 2003. During an extended spring break from UIC, where he was pursuing a doctorate, he traveled to Santiago, where Hadwa was training with a group of Palestinian-Chilean players. In early 2004—by which time Austrian Alfred Riedl had replaced Hadwa—Piña quit school as well as his teaching job at a local nonprofit and traveled with a cameraman and translator to the team’s training camp in Ismailia, Egypt. From there he accompanied the team to World Cup qualifying matches in Doha, Qatar, where all home games are held, and then back to the players’ homes, where he documented their daily struggles: One player’s younger brother was shot in the leg during a protest. Another player was deemed a security risk and his house was demolished. The players were routinely searched in their own neighborhoods. They waited hours or days to cross Israeli checkpoints to attend practices, “home” games, and matches abroad. Sometimes they weren’t allowed out of the region and the team was forced to play shorthanded. (In the end, they failed to qualify for World Cup competition.)
Piña says the first time he crossed the heavily guarded checkpoint at Allenby Bridge from Jordan into Israel he immediately thought of his experience growing up in Chile. Piña was two years old in 1973, when General Augusto Pinochet overthrew Chile’s democratically elected socialist government in a coup backed by the Nixon administration. The dictator’s 17-year reign was marked by poverty, repression, and the disappearances of the regime’s enemies.
Piña’s family was middle-class—his father was a salesman for a big construction firm—but they lived in a working-class Santiago neighborhood where youth clashed with police. “Some kids in my neighborhood set up a barricade in one of the first uprisings against the dictatorship,” Piña says. “The cops came and started shooting and we had to go under the bed. I could hear the bullet shells falling on the roof of my house. Winters in the early 80s felt a lot more gray and cold and hopeless. I thought, ‘Is this ever going to end? Am I always going to live like this?’” As a teenager he became politically active, joining the growing demonstrations against the regime, which finally fell in 1990.
The following year Piña, then 20, traveled to the U.S. with a group of friends: “We were long-haired, wild hippies without a destination.” He spent ten months in Miami, then headed for Minneapolis, stopping in Chicago along the way. He wound up enrolling at National-Louis University, where his aunt worked, and then transferring to Columbia College, where he graduated with a film degree in 1997.
In 1998 Piña took a job teaching video skills to teens at the nonprofit Community TV Network, where he also organized a summer program that brought Jewish and Palestinian American kids together to explore solutions to the Middle East conflict. In 2002 he enrolled at UIC to pursue a PhD in social and cultural anthropology; he put that on hold indefinitely when he left to film in Egypt in 2004.
Piña shot through the end of 2005 in 11 countries on four continents, returning to Chicago between trips. He funded his work with contributions from Palestinian businessmen abroad, fund-raisers, savings, and plenty of loans. (Altogether Piña estimates he spent about $350,000 to make the movie.)
Because he couldn’t find an affordable Arabic-speaking editor here, he relocated to Cairo in February 2006 to shape his 300 hours of footage into a finished film. He spent nearly two years in editing, paying the bills as a freelance postproduction supervisor for Critical Moments, the Arabic-language version of ER, and doing video work for Spanish installation artist Soledad Sevilla.
Free Kick premiered in November at the Latin American Film Festival in Trieste, Italy, where it screened out of competition but was awarded a special prize for audience favorite. The Chicago Latino Film Festival will be the film’s second screening, but Piña won’t be here for it. He’s in Spain with Sevilla documenting her participation in the Granada Exhibition.
After that he’ll return to Cairo to shoot the pilot for a six-part documentary series about rural people who’ve migrated to the world’s megacities and the jobs they’ve improvised for themselves on the margins of the economy. “You follow a guy going on a bicycle with this huge tray of bread on his head to sell at the bus stop,” he explains. “Then you meet a woman who welds water pipes, and that takes you to guys separating cardboard. You go around the clock for 24 hours.” He plans to shoot successive segments in Mumbai, Mexico City, Shanghai, Rio, and Lagos.
“If I can contribute to telling stories that haven’t been told about people struggling with poverty and political turmoil, bringing light to misconceptions about them, that’s what I want to do,” Piña says. “That’s what I did with this movie, and that’s what I’ll do with the future ones that come.” Send a letter to the editor.
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Nelson Soza at 1:03 PM on 4/3/2008
Dear Editor, Writer,
Just so you know, Marcelo Pina has been hidig for two years from the people tat were doing this film with him. He took some $60,000 from investors such as myself and run. The film was actually my project. Not only did I traveled ad shot the film with him, but I also payed for most of it. Up to now, we didn't even know where he was. Thanks for letting us know this fraud is in town. Nelson Soza
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ximena at 1:30 PM on 4/3/2008
I exactly remember when my brother Nelson Soza told me about the idea he had to do this movie, i remember how much he invested and all the campaings he did to raise money for that cause, I remember you working with him knowing he was the started and creator of that project, i remember you not being a political conscious person......is surprising all of that has change so fast, all of the sudden it is you project, all of the sudden you lived in the dictatorship and all of the sudden youa re interested in social justice........incredible, really incredible...yes becasue is all a lye....
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cristian at 1:35 PM on 4/3/2008
I can’t believe this guy has the nerve to present this project knowing he stole it.
cristian
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kily Munoz at 1:41 PM on 4/3/2008
I am Chilean and I dislike for people to say they were victims of the dictatorship when they were not, that period meant a big struggle for a lot of people I don’t think is fair to utilize that suffering
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Lauren Egan at 1:48 PM on 4/3/2008
(Altogether Piña estimates he spent about $350,000 to make the movie.) Whose money? his? is going to give it back?
lauren
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Mortadelo at 2:19 PM on 4/3/2008
Ed Koziarski,
I hope that you recognize Marcelo is sought by many different people for fraud and theft. There are a lot of angry individuals who view him as a robber...someone who has stolen their intellectual property, their money, their hard work and more...
Echa los embusteros y farsantes!!
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Dale at 2:36 PM on 4/3/2008
It is a huge shame that an idea so worthy of being brought to film has been robbed and produced in such a fraudulent manner. Justice is on your side, Nelson!
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hanan el sheikh at 3:12 PM on 4/3/2008
i am an Egyptian painter i was lucky to see the film and to meet the director while he was in Cairo.. although the article is great but pina and his "Free Kick" cannot be described by simple words.. no words can ever explain his and his team work hard work and patience and deep believe in what they were doing...no words..thank you Marcelo pina for your great work and thanks for your team work who believes in you and your idea and worked all in one..and if someone really needs to know what am i talking about...he must see the 'Free Kick" and wait for what is coming next.
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Melissa at 4:50 PM on 4/3/2008
Shame on the Chicago Reader, the Chicago Latin Film Festival and all the others who are showing this film for not doing their research. The real story on this film should be how Marcelo Pina is taking credit for Nelson Sosa's hard work and dedication to this film.
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Carla at 4:53 PM on 4/3/2008
i can beleive that Pina could receive a prize in Italy knowing the film is not his, is a real shame
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julio at 4:56 PM on 4/3/2008
"Because of the reach of the game of soccer, the team has been able to make Palestine part of the community of nations in a positive way," Producer Nelson Soza added, "different from the violence with which Palestine is associated every time the name is brought up, particularly in Western sources."
how come the movie had a producer that is not named anymore???????????
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fernando gonzalez at 5:01 PM on 4/3/2008
please do some research in the films you guys present, because Pina is a Thief and is going to need to respond to all this
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Karema Maureira at 5:05 PM on 4/3/2008
So sad something like this happends to good ideas. Sad, very sad, because that makes investors stop beleiving in projects like this one.
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Veronica vergara at 5:06 PM on 4/3/2008
what a shame for Pina
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Vanessa Kotesky at 5:14 PM on 4/3/2008
This film was a joint project from its inception. If you, Marcelo, truly believe in social justice, you would have handled the film properly before the film debuted. The personal is political--if you can't demonstrate equity and justice in your own life, then how do you expect to get your political message across without appearing as a hypocrite?
The project, in itself, is wonderful, as it presents Palestinians as humans and not as terrorits. However, if you, Marcelo, were not able to face Nelson and come to an amicable agreement, how can you dare to put your face on this project?
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Carolina at 5:15 PM on 4/3/2008
more info:
http://www.theglobalgame.com/palestin.html
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article3259.shtml
Now I know why Marcelo will be in Spain...ladron!
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Cristian at 5:21 PM on 4/3/2008
Pina says: "traveled to the U.S. with a group of friends: "We were long-haired, wild hippies without a destination." yes!!!! you didn't have a destination, because you never had political life and political Ideas of your own.
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Vanessa Kotesky at 5:24 PM on 4/3/2008
This film was a joint project from its inception. If you, Marcelo, truly believe in social justice, you would have handled the film properly before the film debuted. The personal is political--if you can't demonstrate equity and justice in your own life, then how do you expect to get your political message across without appearing as a hypocrite? The project, in itself, is wonderful, as it presents Palestinians as humans and not as terrorists. However, if you, Marcelo, were not able to face Nelson and come to an amicable agreement, then how can you dare to put your face on this project?
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Ximena at 5:26 PM on 4/3/2008
que verguenza marcelo andar por ahi sabiendo que el proyecto original nunca fue tuyo, espero que sepas que no puede mentir para siempre, algun dia todo se aclara.
deja de mentirle a las personas, de mentirte a ti mismo creyendote activista cuando no eres nada, sobre todo no uses la vida politic de chile para aparecer como victima y como una persona comprometida, si hubieras estado envuelto en politica en chile, te hubieramos conocido porque nosostros trabajamos con todo el movimiento secundario, no ocupes el sacrificio de otros, eso ya no tiene nombre.
devuelve la plata y algo de honor, no seas caradura.
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Antv at 5:28 PM on 4/3/2008
sad
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Jorge Lara at 5:29 PM on 4/3/2008
Portland, Oregon, 22 April 2005 | Body searches, travel restrictions, arrests and martial law are not conditions usually associated with international football. These however have been familiar realities for members of the Palestinian national team. In spite of daunting odds, these players have succeeded in representing their nation. Futbol Palestina 2006, Nelson Soza and Marcelo Piña’s film in progress, is a record of the players’ struggles, determination and pride.
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Jorge Lara at 5:32 PM on 4/3/2008
please read
is Pina having an identity problem describing his life as Soza's
a recent interview Soza described how he became involved in student politics in high school. "It was a terrible time, but also a time of learning and action. In those days we saw Palestine as a sister struggle; Chileans were also fighting in the streets. The fact that we were not unfamiliar with the word 'Palestino' could have also helped. Palestino is a first-division soccer club in Chile, founded by Palestinian immigrants in 1939. The club has produced great players. It all kind of worked together."
Soza grew up in a working-class neighborhood of Santiago, overlooking the Andes. "In the middle of our buildings there was a soccer field. This was pure dirt and stones, even glass, but we loved this field because every weekend our club played in it. I was in the team since I was probably five. Some of my greatest memories are set against that field. After many years in the United States, the picture of it in my mind is one of my dearest. Recently, visiting the Naher Al-Bared camp in Tripoli, I saw a field that could have been the one I grew up on, only this one had the Mediterranean 50 meters away."
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Vanessa Kotesky at 5:34 PM on 4/3/2008
This film was a joint project from its inception. If you, Marcelo, truly believe in social justice, you would have handled the film properly before the film debuted. The personal is political--if you can't demonstrate equity and justice in your own life, then how do you expect to get your political message across without appearing as a hypocrite? The project, in itself, is wonderful, as it presents Palestinians as humans and not as terrorists. However, if you, Marcelo, were not able to face Nelson and come to an amicable agreement, then how can you dare to put your face on this project?
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Angelica at 5:49 PM on 4/3/2008
If you are claiming that Soza did not receive credit, then it is just obvious that you do not know anything about the project and just because Soza was a political figure in the past doesn't mean that he is an honest guy. As all the previous comments state: you should do more research especially when making serious accusations. Just because you are related to Soza or have known him at a personal level, doesn't mean that you know his ethics or should I say unethic ways of proceding. I did not know that Soza was a saint.
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Angelica at 5:53 PM on 4/3/2008
And why Soza's comment is not here anymore? Did he consult with his lawyer and took it out?
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Angelica at 6:07 PM on 4/3/2008
And why Soza's comment is not here anymore? Did he consult with his lawyer and took it out?
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Vanessa at 6:15 PM on 4/3/2008
Show me in what part of the description of this article, does it state that Nelson had any part in the making of the film?
Who said that Nelson was a saint?
It is not about whether he is or is not honest, it's about a specific project not about personal vendettas The situtaion needs to be corrected so that Nelson gets credit as well.
Clearly your comments show that you are emotionally involved.
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cristian torres at 6:20 PM on 4/3/2008
triste comprender que este bello proyecto no salio de tu pensamiento ....triste comprender que robaste un idea, la imagen, y toda la lealtad del pueblo palestino.....
cada dia que recibas elogios recuerda al originador de este proyecto...el que te invito a trabajar junto a el cuando los futuros fueron inciertos.
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ximena at 6:22 PM on 4/3/2008
if soza consult with his lawyer, that was a great idea, time and justice will tell about the credits, no body is a saint, but who ever steals is a thief and who ever lies is a lier.
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Angelica at 6:29 PM on 4/3/2008
Exactly Ximena. Time and JUSTICE and Vanessa, go to watch the movie and YOU WILL SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES. No more coments
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patrick at 6:42 PM on 4/3/2008
First of all, as far as I know, this project has taken 4 and a half years to be completed. The film has not been distributed and as far as I know, Piña survived with loans and some work he was able to get in Cairo. People should really know that no money has been made with this film yet. To call Piña a thief is a blunt fallacy. Soza worked on this film on and off for about and HE DOES GET CREDITS for the work he did.
As far as his investment goes, Soza is one of many people who put money on this film, a lot of this film was done with in-kind contributions, anyone who has followed this closeley as I have knows this, even some of the people stating their opinion here.
Piña has not make a single penny with this work and since Soza credited for the work he did, he is shooting himself on the foot. Anyone who knows Soza closely knows that the guy has issues. That doesn´t mean he shouldn´t be treated with respect or not acknowledge the good work he has done, especially as a teenager in Chile, but to falsely accused Piña of theft and mobilizing his entire family and friends to put dirt on this work shows the kind of person he really is. One thing is to be a political organizer, the other is to make a film.
Go to the movies tomorrow and see by yourself.
Patrick
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Carla at 6:51 PM on 4/3/2008
one thing is to work with a camera, another is to make a movie, desing a project,and be an activist.
credit is one thing, but the actual tapes is something different. you are not only a thief when you make money out of something, you can steal ideas, the trust of people, etc. if Pina is an honest guy, why isn't he here, why he hasn't respond? he is a thief and he knows it.
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patrick at 6:54 PM on 4/3/2008
Was Soza the only Chilean subject to mistreatment but the Chilean rigime? Someone states here, I think is Soza´s sister, that Pña was not politicaly active until this film. Lets assume that is right, is it a crime to become politicaly awared? This is a circus. The legal matters have been handled properly and before stating more fallacies, people should do serious research.
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patrick at 6:59 PM on 4/3/2008
There are several films on this subject. Please check ¨World Cup Inshala¨ and ¨Goal Dreams¨. Does Soza wants credits for that too, I mean intellectual credits. Wake up people!!!
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Carla at 7:06 PM on 4/3/2008
it is not a crime to become awared, but he is saying he was politically active and I don't think that it is the case
Pina says
"Some kids in my neighborhood set up a barricade in one of the first uprisings against the dictatorship," Piña says. "The cops came and started shooting and we had to go under the bed. I could hear the bullet shells falling on the roof of my house. Winters in the early 80s felt a lot more gray and cold and hopeless. I thought, ‘Is this ever going to end? Am I always going to live like this?’"......all chileans went through that, but did he do something about it?
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dalia at 7:47 PM on 4/3/2008
sorry....it seems like totally unfair comments ..i think this is not the reason of making a comment on an article cant any one stop this meaningless inappropriate comments... mr.soza will you kindly stop your family and be more responsible...and mr.pina thank you for not replying i think this means much...i think it means let my film talk and my lawyers work
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Johnson at 7:52 PM on 4/3/2008
Is this the same Nelson Soza I and everyone knew back in the day to be a drunk and cokehead? The guy was a bully back then and I guess he still is now.
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Chileans in Chi-Town at 8:01 PM on 4/3/2008
considering all of the great vibes in the review, it's OBVIOUS that this movie should be seen and supported! Shame Shame Nelson and crew for bringing your own name down. If it's true that your name is in the credits, what do you look like shooting yourself in the foot?! KEEP THE POSITIVE VIBES FLOWING! MUCH LOVE FOR THIS MOVIE!!! I am personally happy to see this project is finally going to be shown as I also contributed monetarily to this project. SALUD TO THE CHILENOS IN CHI-TOWN AND SUPPORT THIS FILM and don't be a tipico Chileno and say any b.s. about your own peeps! VIVA CHILE MIERDA!
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Sinead Oconnor at 8:03 PM on 4/3/2008
I guess anyone and his family can put any defamatory comment up here he wants. Its a shame this guy Soza feels he has such a week case with his lawyers that he and his family has to resort to THIS forum.
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Chilena in Chi-Town at 8:04 PM on 4/3/2008
SEE THIS MOVIE!!!
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Sinead Oconnor at 8:05 PM on 4/3/2008
I guess anyone and his family can put any defamatory comment up here he wants. Its a shame this guy Soza feels he has such a weak case with his lawyers that he and his family have to resort to THIS forum.
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Ximena at 8:07 PM on 4/3/2008
FUNA that is all this is, not allowing impunity.
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Sofia at 8:34 PM on 4/3/2008
I am glad Mr. Pina is not on here responding to Mr. Soza and his family. I do not understand why people are stating that Mr. Pinais not politically active. It is even stated but did he do something about it? I am pretty sure that you know know for a fact that he did not not do anything about. what did you grow up with him to know hat the hell he did? Is Soza states that all of this was stolen from him. well why did you wait until now to say anything. You say that you have all this proof to show that Mr. Pina took your idea. Would you have said something about the movie if Mr. Pina did not take it as far as he did?
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Juan Carlos at 9:00 PM on 4/3/2008
I too am an investor. I believe in the project and have been entirely impressed with how Mr. Pina has handled himself and his business affairs. I am pleased with the outcome of this film, and I look forward to the future works by Mr. Pina.
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Aron at 10:04 PM on 4/3/2008
The film presents a very compelling story. But if you Google Futbol Palestina the history of the film is well documented. It really is unfortunate that some have the attitude that we should applaud Pina regardless of his unethical methods. Unfortunately, the controversy surrounding this stolen film is just another blow to the Palestinan players who are struggling for recognition.
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Jennie at 12:11 AM on 4/4/2008
As someone who coordinated fundraising events and invested thousands of dollars in this film, I am glad to see some version finally aired for the public. However, there has been a lack of accountability throughout the last 4 years on Marcelo's part. The initial concept, as defined by both Marcelo and Nelson, was to finish the film in time for the 2006 World Cup, taking advantage of a particular moment in time to increase exposure of the struggle of the Palestinian people "through the lens of soccer" (Nelson's words). This clearly did not happen. It is unfortunate that Marcelo prioritized his own interests above those of the people he was filming. If Marcelo's true cause is social justice rather than self promotion, regardless of his actual or assumed history, why would he generate a situation in which neither he nor anyone else could take advantage of such a moment?
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patrick at 5:45 AM on 4/4/2008
Please cheack:
"Goals Dreams" (http://www.arabfilm.com/item/409/)
I ask again, is this guy Soza fighting for credits in this film too. Everyone who knows the story and how Free Kick got done, knows that Marcelo was not only the driven force of this doc, but also the one who made it a reality.
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patrick at 5:47 AM on 4/4/2008
Please also check BBC's Frontline piece:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2b8ut_frontline-football-palestine-vs-ira_politics
Is Soza claiming intellectual property here too?
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Carolina at 6:54 AM on 4/4/2008
It is completely strange that Marcelo is not in Chicago now, the City where he studied and lived for many years, presenting "his" movie. To the people that knows Marcelo, or maybe Marcelo is writing but might have opened a new e-mail account...mmmm....anyways, legal process needs to say the last word. Marcelo face Nelson in a tribunal and stop running...face Nelson in a tribunal and stop running...
And yes, I am Nelson's sister, and I say it openly and honestly...again I'm Nelson's sister...proud to be his sister...so proud I don't need him to tell me to support him on this...on this because I know justice and truth are on his side.
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Tano at 7:00 AM on 4/4/2008
Can I make a suggestion? Check out these links and see for yourself:
http://usa.mediamonitors.net/headlines/soccer_loving_filmmakers_with_goals_of_their_own
http://www.theglobalgame.com/palestin.html
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article3259.shtml
http://www.washington-report.org/archives/June_2004/0406050.html
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Tano at 7:04 AM on 4/4/2008
More:
http://www.colegioarabe.cl/Portada/Noticias_Anteriores_Mundo_Arabe/301.asp
http://www.academia.cl/rev_antrop_visual/revista4/n%B0anteriores/revista%203/noticias/Selecci%F3n%20Palestina%20de%20F%FAtbol.htm
http://www.antropologiavisual.cl/noticias3/Selecci%F3n%20Palestina%20de%20F%FAtbol%202.htm
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Tano at 7:05 AM on 4/4/2008
AND MORE:
http://noticias.kinoki.org/pina-y-soza-realizan-un-documental-sobre-la-seleccion-de-futbol-palestina/
http://www.runner-up.org/category/politics/
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ximena at 8:13 AM on 4/4/2008
personal comments about use of substances, doesn't have anything to do with this discussion, it is very poor to bring those things up, we haven't said things about marcelo that doesn't have to do with the film.
if Soza didn't say anything before it is because Pina has been made himself available for some reason, he still isn't.
even if there are 100 movies that are similar, pina did not think about doing this movie and didn't want to do it either.
I don't think credit is enough, soza has just asked for the tapes of the travels both did together, for the idea Soza started.......that is it........no one can say this is not soza's project.....
also puting some money in the film is not the same as the idea and more than 60 thosand dollars........this is not about buying a couple of T-shirt......
Time will tell.....
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sepa at 11:29 AM on 4/4/2008
i saw the film, it was very touching and to the point.. and very human too..and if it was not really his own idea it was not going to be done like that, beside that nobody can stand to be working for 4 years in very hard atmosphere with a really big chance of being killed in any second especially for a man with camera, if you saw the film you would notice what i have said,by the way it is not easy to get into palastine also
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sepa at 2:34 PM on 4/4/2008
I wonder where was Nelson Soza since 2006, why he is only complaining now after the movie is awarded, why he didn't take any move before ?if pina was a thief as soza said why didn't Soza mention it before now ?all of us know that when someone take your work, your idea, your money or anything from you ....you can't stop like that for "two years" before taking any move to defend your rights !
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Carolina at 3:35 PM on 4/4/2008
you might not know but Nelson has been fighting for this since Marcelo run away. I have e-mails coming back and forth from Nelson, Marcelo and others. Unfortunately you NOW know this 'cause is being exposed in the paper on the web. There are records and pending negotiations, but with Marcelo abroad it is very hard to make a case move. That is why I said...Marcelo face Nelson in court! that is all we need...Nelson wants and deserve the tapes...the tapes, so he can do what ever he wants with them. I'm sure that, knowing my brother's talents, he will do a wonderful work.
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ximena at 5:11 PM on 4/4/2008
when you are alone with yourself I am sure....you remember Marcelo, you can't hide from your own lies.
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Julia at 5:12 PM on 4/4/2008
going back to the links suggested in this page, it is hard to beleive this is mr Pina's film
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Tati at 5:14 PM on 4/4/2008
yo soy Chilena y no creo que se tenga que apoyar cualquier cosa.
a muchos chilenos tipicos al parecer les gusta vivir dejando todo en la impunidad
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Joe M. A. at 5:17 PM on 4/4/2008
too bad we can't get the real story about this, if he is so sure, Why Pina doesn't want to go to court and face the law????????
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Carolina at 5:38 PM on 4/4/2008
Yo tambien soy chilena y no creo que se tenga que apoyar a un chileno solo porque es chileno. Justice does not have borders, or nationalities...criminals are criminals...and if they are chilean I will sure stand against them, as I did against Pinochet.
Marcelo let the courts decide...just face Nelson in court...it is all we want.
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Laura at 4:16 PM on 4/7/2008
I just wanted to say that I went to see the movie because I was curious after reading all the comments. The only thing I can say right now is WOW. What an awesome movie!
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Gaby at 4:23 PM on 4/7/2008
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!!!!
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Kathy at 9:41 PM on 4/7/2008
Great movie! Saw it and loved it
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Fatima at 9:44 PM on 4/7/2008
Thank you for the movie. I enjoyed every minute of it.
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John at 9:48 PM on 4/7/2008
Very informative movie. I like the format too. I recommend it to everybody.
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El informador at 3:17 PM on 4/10/2008
Hey, hey , hey calm down! Here are two things that don’t make any sense. If you calling someone a thief doesn’t that meant that the person took you money and run away. At this time that MONEY is in an actual film. As far as I know Marcelo did not run away. He had to go to Egypt to find some one that speaks the Arabic language so they can easily edit it. (Most likely on a lower const) Another point is that you cannot sue the filmmaker about getting your money back until that film actually gets "SOLD". (If you have actually made a contract of investment.) At this point this film it’s just getting into film festivals to get exposure. Now, Nelson you are really messing your self up writing this kind of statements, because it is too early for you to be complaining and you are making more difficult for the film to actually get a distribution deal. An other note is that people who make documentaries should know that must documentaries don’t make money, they might just make the actual money invest back. (if any) Hermano! Edúcate primero y aguanta tus impulsiones. Deberías estar agradecido que por fin se acabo la película y tienes que apoyarla para que se pueda distribuir y puedan existir mas esperanzas para que te regresen tu dinero si es que es eso lo que te molesta.
How about the subject of Palestina? if someone here cares about it.
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Ximena at 6:25 PM on 4/10/2008
well I don't think Marcelo pina cares about Palestina, he never had the idea to make this film, i wonder if he even knew that there were Palestineans in chile before Soza invited him for this project, i personaly beleive he cares about having this oportunity someone else offered him, to finally "do something"....
and it is not about the money only, it is about the tapes that Pina did not give back or shared with the creator and investor of the idea....
it is not about money, it is about pina going around lying about being a victim of the dictatorship, about not giving appropiate credit and about not wanting to say where he is to receive any papers from court.....he did not just go to Egypt.....he hasn't shown his face...
inform your self...."hermano"........
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Joseph at 11:16 AM on 4/13/2008
Ximena Soza is a right wing demagogue. She is a supporter of Renovacion Nacional, and evidently does not believe there were any victims of the dictatorship. It is sad that the history of Chile only belongs to one section one the people. She has no love for the people of any nacion, and only has hate and negativity in her heart. Ximena wishes she could make an impact on the world,but only fels impotent. how pathetic.
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el metiche at 1:28 PM on 4/16/2008
This is a clear story of Mom and Dad. Dad (Nelson) has the idea of having a child "Free kick". Then Dad approach Mom (Marcelo) to have a child. He trusted Mom because Mom studied to be Mom. They got married or got together because I don’t know if they sign a certificate. Once Mom got pregnant, problems, arguments and miss-understandings starting to happen like in many relationships. Both of them had different ideas of how to raise the child. Then the big fight happened and now father wants to take the child away because he was the one with the sperm (idea). But wait a minute, mother is the one with the skills and the one that study to be a Mama, or the one that was approach to conceive a child. How can you think about taking a child just like from his mother!! At this point Mom has tremendous love for the child because she even had to run away to another continent for the good of the child. If it wasn’t love please tell me what it was? Mom fought for years to make sure the child grows up and goes out to the world to make her proud. Now, Dad finds out that the child is out and wants his rights back. But wait minute, does Dad really cares about the child? Because we haven’t heard the father say anything good about the child. It is evident that the father just wants to be recognized as the father. Although the father couldn’t see the child grow. Does the father really thing about the child? What good is going to do the child if Dad is talking so bad about his Mom. I’m sorry to say but the Father wasn’t there because it was probably the best thing for the child. In those terms a judge would clearly had to put the child in the custody of the Mom because the Dad might be a little explosive. In our society we see this problems all the time and usually Mom keeps the child. Anyways, the truth of the matter is that the Child wants to grow up and has a more important journeys for him self then a domestic dispute.
This is clearly a story of making a film and now I admire Marcelo more than anything else because he had to do what he had to do make a film. Nelson has his arguments, but does he really know how to make a film? Because what he is doing here is not showing that. Only time will tell, Marcelo is going to continue to make films and he is going to see this just as another chapter in his career. If Nelson really feels so offended by not getting the right credit and continues to grown hate in himself, please use this as a learning experience and make a film by your self next time. You guys should get a better lawyer because what you are doing here is digging your self more. I don’t know who would want to work with Sosa after this. You are putting your emotions in from of your profession. Peace!
Que vergüenza para nuestra comunidad que se usen los insultos en vez de un dialogo común. Sigo con la idea que esto nunca debería haber salido de la cocina. No van a resolver nada y deberían de parar ya!!!!!
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Sarah B at 8:20 PM on 10/10/2008
Nelson Sosa is so bitter that he and his friends have gone on a smear campaign to ruin Marcelo's accomplishment. Nelson Sosa has never had an original idea in his life and was riding the coattails of people like Marcelo when I met him. Shame on YOU, Nelson. You are truly a loser for what you and your ignorant friends have done here.
I thought it was a GREAT documentary. Well balanced and with plenty of emotion and substance. Congratulations, Marcelo.
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