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A Sound Experiment?Chicago Public Radios Vocalo project may be reinventing public radio, but is it at the expense of WBEZ?
By Michael Miner July 17, 2008
The only thing sacred in journalism any longer is the future, and the way to get there looks more like a treasure map than a road map. Anyone able to shout with authority, “Here’s where we dig!” is taken seriously, and anyone who asks, “Why there?” becomes part of the problem.
Nevertheless, you will always find someone asking why—if only because of the ancient truism that if you don’t become part of the problem you’re left out of the solution. The leaders of Chicago Public Radio believe they are inventing the future of public radio and that it is called Vocalo. There are WBEZ staffers who don’t think so. They are reluctant to be quoted saying so, but they are not reluctant to say so.
Vocalo is the anti-WBEZ, conceived a couple years ago by Torey Malatia, CEO of Chicago Public Radio and general manager of its principle asset, WBEZ, to reach the vast audience that wouldn’t listen to WBEZ on a bet.
Malatia could have started small. He could have slipped Vocalo on the air in one of the time slots that opened in 2007 when most of WBEZ’s music programming was discontinued. Last October National Public Radio started small with a similar show, Bryant Park Project, carried on the NPR Web site a couple hours each day.
But Malatia’s a visionary and a gambler. Vocalo began as a separate Web site, vocalo.org, and a separate frequency, 89.5 FM, which went on the air last May and now broadcasts 24/7, if only to a potential audience in northwestern Indiana of between 40,000 and 100,000 people. Sixteen months ago Malatia wrote a piece hailing his creation for Current, a newspaper that covers public radio and TV. In with the new, he said in language that could only discomfort the old. “We created Vocalo . . . because we recognized that we had based our work at Chicago Public Radio on certain core assumptions that might no longer be valid. . . . The challenges require building from the ground up, learning broadcasting all over again.”
Malatia championed Vocalo as a roll of the dice. “Admittedly, these initiatives are as likely to fail as succeed,” he wrote. “On the road we are traveling, the pavement ended several miles back. This is far more exhilarating than disconcerting.”
From the first, WBEZ employees—even the ones who supported the premise that radical change was to be welcomed—were skeptical. Malatia promised a firewall between Vocalo’s finances and WBEZ’s. But WBEZ found itself sharing an IT staff, a marketing staff, fund-raisers. A staffer on the WBEZ side says they began to feel “like the red-headed stepchild, the one who has to do all the chores. There were definitely rancorous feelings.”
Malatia also had plans for WBEZ—more public affairs programming, more staff, new neighborhood bureaus. But WBEZ staffers have wanted to go far beyond these changes; they’ve longed to seize the day, responding to the crumbling of Chicago’s newspapers by spending the money it would take to turn itself into the city’s preeminent news source. But there is no money. “That should be our mission,” says one staffer. But “measured against the plan and the dream, we stopped short.” Malatia was betting on another dream, Vocalo.
To hear Vocalo anywhere outside that sliver of Indiana you’ve got to stream it through your computer. But a tower’s being erected in Porter, Indiana, and when it’s up in August the 89.5 signal will reach 2.6 million people, says Malatia. By comparison, the WBEZ signal reaches 6 million, of whom about 500,000 tune in each week.
Here’s how Malatia described Vocalo in Current and has been describing it ever since: “There will be a website, but it would be wrong to say that it’s the station’s website. Really, it’s the website’s radio station.”
Malatia compares Vocalo.org to Facebook: become a member and you can post and exchange notes and tapes; one of the hosts might even play your tape on the air. For a taste of where the hosts’ minds are at, consult the Vocalo.org “shout box.” As I write, the shout box features a query from Shantell, who’s cohosting at the moment with LadyTwist. “Are you bisexual if u date a person with both sets of genitals?” Shantell wonders. The public’s instructed to “type an answer, then listen for it on-air.” Hooded Ninja6069 has just responded. “It really depends on the circumstance. If you dating this person and your really into them but then BAM you find out they have genitals of both sexes and choose to stay with him/her its just straight up love.”
The Web site tells us Shantell’s 23, her hood is the “southside of Chicago,” and “anything having to do with the creation and delivery of sounds and information is me!” LadyTwist is 22 and “recorded her first demo tape at the age of 10.” She’s a journalism student with “the uncanny ability to tell a riveting story about literally anything while maintaining a consistent rhyming pattern. Thereby her latest release ‘The Demotape 2’ is LadyTwist’s most creative, thought-provoking and musically ingenious creation to date.”
When I told Malatia that the WBEZ employees I’d sampled thought Vocalo was so amateurish it was unlistenable, he replied, “That’s probably a good thing. We did research with nonlisteners [of WBEZ], and among the things we found were off-putting about public radio were the things we value—which is really kind of hard to hear. Number one, experts are a real turnoff. The fact the sound is so pure and wonderful and you hear the dripping of the brook and the twittering of the birds—forget it. These are people [at Vocalo] whose expectations are to be talked to extremely naturally and people get to the point very fast and people are treated with the kind of respect that comes from a kind of leveling that I think sometimes in public media is exactly what the ’BEZ core [audience] is not looking for. The core is not looking for ‘tell it like it is.’ They’re looking for eloquence, the well-hewn argument.”
I asked one WBEZ staffer this: At every newspaper I know of, the old product’s being hammered so shrinking revenues can be targeted at Web-focused initiatives that might not work but need to be tried. Even if WBEZ has to pay the price, isn’t Chicago Public Radio doing what it needs to do?
“If I was hearing something that was different and forward-looking and seemed new and compelling,” this staffer answered, “I think that would be an easier pill to swallow. But it’s just so roundly looked down on. Everyone who hears it says it sucks.”
Vocalo’s hosts are no doubt creative people. Another of them is Amber Hawk Swanson, a performance and video artist profiled in the Reader last August and known for—to quote from Swanson’s Web site—“inserting a sexually available silicone replica of myself into . . . charged environments.” But to the chagrin of the crack journalists at WBEZ, Malatia deliberately hired a staff with no radio experience. Few hosts knew anything at all about journalism.
Malatia tells me he’s “delighted” by that. “The problem radio has had all these years—especially public radio—is that you’re recycling the same people. As soon as we dropped that requirement”—the requirement of experience—“we found people with great gifts who were devoted to the community and well connected. When you’re starting something like this you have lots of time to train people.”
They trained seven months before Vocalo even went on the air last June, and as a practical matter they’re training yet. Malatia says this is still beta Vocalo—the official launch, with all the hoopla, comes in September.
Three weeks ago Malatia held a staff meeting and announced some bad news: there wasn’t enough money. This meant that WBEZ’s top project, Right Now, a daily afternoon news show with a producer Malatia had hired away from NPR’s Talk of the Nation, was being shelved. The Sunday arts program Hello Beautiful was leaving the air. And the firewall was rubble. Some Vocalo funding hadn’t come through and WBEZ would be making up the shortfall.
“We expected Vocalo.org to lose some money—there’s a three-year business plan—but it was more than we expected,” says Malatia. “And what really hurt last year was that we were having issues with revenues for 91.5 itself. Those we expected to come in perfectly consistent with our past history.”
He says they’d expected Vocalo to finish the year $300,000 in the red; it was more like $600,000. And instead of breaking even, WBEZ was $887,000 in the hole. A couple other Chicago Public Radio ventures with separate budgets, its Third Coast International Audio Festival and Greg Kot and Jim DeRogatis’s rock talk show Sound Opinions, also ran deficits. Even This American Life just broke even after making half a million dollars for Chicago Public Radio the year before. “The good news is that we have net assets that take care of this,” says Malatia. “But this year we’ll have to be very careful.”
Moving ahead with Vocalo despite tough times isn’t reckless in the view of management—it’s prudent. Tony Weisman, who’s chairman of the board of Chicago Public Radio, calls it “the boldest experiment in public radio to date. We’re talking about reinventing the whole idea of public media in Chicago, and that’s where investment is required.”
Despite what he once told his staff, Malatia now says it’s foolish to think of WBEZ and Vocalo as separate entities. “I don’t see Vocalo and ’BEZ as different things,” he tells me. “I know it’s a different frequency and programming, but we’re not talking about Gannett,” which publishes newspapers in cities far distant from each other. “It’s just a radio station.”
Weisman goes further. He thinks that if Vocalo reinvents public radio, WBEZ can only benefit. “We’ll see in time a more symbiotic relationship between the stations.”
If Vocalo doesn’t reinvent public radio, who will? On Monday NPR pulled the plug on Bryant Park Project. Did Malatia make Vocalo huge from the start to leave himself no way to back down? Plenty of people at WBEZ hope not—they’d like to see him shrink Vocalo to the size they think it should have been in the first place—a couple hours a day on WBEZ dedicated to experimental counterprogramming. This isn’t because they’re petty and envious. They want their station to be better than it is. Like Malatia, they’re ambitious.
For more on the media, see Michael Miner’s blog, News Bites. Send a letter to the editor.
From the Reader blogs News Bites Michael Miner: Creative Loafing's biggest creditor tells bankruptcy court that bringing in Brian Crino and Skyway Capital is a terrible idea. Friday at 3:51 pm
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Radiogonzo at 2:26 PM on 7/16/2008
"Did Malatia make Vocalo huge from the start to leave himself no way to back down?"
Richard Nixon's people called this the "madman theory". It's clear from this article that WBEZ will not stop hemorrhaging staff, listeners and talent until Vocalo is cut back, and Vocalo won't be cut off until Malatia is gone. I'd give him 16 months at most.
I tried listening to this vocalo thing and...it's worse than college radio! And from my distant recollection, college radio doesn't have full-time paid staff.
This story would be funny, except that the dot-com bubble already burst, newspapers are collapsing and Mr. Malatia and the board should have known better.
Shame.
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Speaks at 5:15 PM on 7/16/2008
Fire Malatia and be done with this idiocy already. Vocalo is a failure. There is alternative programming and cutting a new path, and then there is the shit fest that Vocalo is. Ugh, it's not just worse than college radio, it's worse than the people who get rejected from college radio. Even if it weren't sucking the life blood out of 91.5 it should be scrapped.
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DeBartolo at 8:52 PM on 7/16/2008
Vocalo?
Never heard of it. I'll be sure to check it out next time I'm in Indiana.
But as radio, it can't be any worse than "Magnificent Obsession: True stories of recovery from alcohol and drug dependency," which has basically screwed up our Sunday mornings ever since it first started to air on BEZ.
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Jeff at 8:59 AM on 7/17/2008
Wow. I had no idea they were spending money on this...
Why do they keep this hidden from the audience when they are hitting us up for money? I find that incredibly disingenuous. Is that even illegal deceptive practice on the part of Tori Malatia? It sounds like they are asking for money to spend on WBEZ but the money ends up going to this silly website.
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R.Barnes at 9:21 AM on 7/17/2008
Thank you very much for this article.
I have occasionally listened to Vocalo online since its unfortunate birth. And to my ears, it is still every bit the cruel joke it was since its earliest days.
I've found I can only stomach about 5 minutes at a time, assuming 3 of those minutes are taken up by a song that isn't too loathsome.
The problem with Torey Malatia's goal of making Vocalo nothing like WBEZ is that there are a lot of ways to do that, and Vocalo seems to be one of the worst imaginable. The Howard Stern show is nothing like WBEZ. Rush Limbaugh is nothing like WBEZ. Sports talk shows are nothing like WBEZ. Advanced calculus is nothing like WBEZ. And I would rather any of those than Vocalo.
I can't see who would actually enjoy listening to Vocalo outside of the Vocalo hosts themselves, some of their friends who are too polite to do or say otherwise, and the hosts' mostly deaf grandparents who are proud that their grandkids "are doing something with those computers."
Vocalo is doubly unfortunate. It is unfortunate that Torey Malatia has wasted an excellent opportunity to develop quality alternative public radio. By all means, do something different than WBEZ; reach out to the audiences that WBEZ is failing to capture and go for content WBEZ lacks. There are a lot of possibilities. An all-music station centered on both Chicago's historical and current music scene would be most welcome (it's pathetic that I hear far more Chicago-based and Chicago-associated music on public stations elsewhere in the country than on WBEZ or Vocalo). Or an all Spanish-language station, which would certainly be a more direct way of reaching the Latino audience that Torey Malatia somehow thinks can't wait to hear dimwits on Vocalo talk about genitalia. Or something else, only not Vocalo.
It is unfortunate that Torey Malatia has pissed away the chance to develop interesting alternative public radio with an utterly failed and poorly thought out vanity project.
But it is also truly unfortunate that Torey has sacrificed 91.5 at the altar of his ego. The news media in this country and in our area is increasingly partisan, and increasingly shallow. There is a growing hole that 91.5 can fill in the Chicagoland area, developing and delivering objective news, investigating stories other media outlets will no longer cover. Torey's stubborn insistence on seeing Vocalo through to the bitter end just makes it that much harder for 91.5 to fill that hole.
When Vocalo first came online, I asked someone at the old WBEZ forum (which seems to have been taken down a while ago) if 91.5 money was going to Vocalo. I was explicitly told Vocalo had its own money from grants and my worries were for naught. I feel like I was lied to. Certainly I will not be giving WBEZ any money until Vocalo is dead and Torey is fired.
In the meantime, if you are going to brave a listen at vocalo.org, I suggest developing some sort of Vocalo Bingo or Vocalo Drinking Game to make it a less horrific experience.
Possible squares for Vocalo Bingo, or possible triggers for the Vocalo Drinking Game:
* Host says an inane comment (this should probably be the center square in Vocalo Bingo since in my experience it will get filled within the first minute of a Vocalo host being on air)
* A gratuitous mention of sex or genitals
* A host laughing at their own, not funny, joke
* A noticeably bad (as in "what the hell is going on?") sound segueway or edit
There are others, but I don't know that I can bring myself to listen to any more Vocalo right now to help me come up with them.
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Preset at 9:37 AM on 7/17/2008
What would you expect from Malatia? He ruined their jazz programming, by hiring a folkie to run their jazz programming. Why hire anyone from the jazz community-what would they know about jazz? I doubt WFMT would hire a music programmer that didn't have a classical background, or WXRT hire someone without a rock background. He managed to turn their jazz into a big sleeping pill-aural wallpaper. After ruining jazz programming he got rid of it altogether,
which was probably his agenda anyway.
I bet old Torey fancies that he's thinking "outside the box." Or maybe he just likes those endless fundraisers.
I hope they get rid of this self-pocessed arrogant moron before the station becomes even more unlistenable-if that's possible.
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SonDuh at 12:54 PM on 7/17/2008
A lot of cities have two, competing public radio stations. Maybe that's what we need here in Chicago.
Does anyone know anything about starting a public radio station? How hard would it be to start up a rival station?
I bet you could gather up laid off people from the Trib, Sun Times and the Reader pretty easily. Throw in some talented discontents from WBEZ (who probably wouldn't mind switching teams) along with some podcasters and bloggers who actually know what they are doing, and you could kick the crap out of Vocalo and WBEZ.
Maybe when Vocalo fails, the new station could get their tower at a discount?
Any web developers out there (betterchicagopublicradio.com anyone?)
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BobL at 1:22 PM on 7/17/2008
I also thank you for the article.
Chicago does have another public radio station, WDCB 90.9, which provides mostly jazz, blues, and other music which has been missing from WBEZ in the last year. Unfortunately, they don't have the best signal in parts of the area. In recent years I have been listening more and more to WDCB and less to WBEZ. My contributions have changed accordingly.
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AndewS at 2:39 PM on 7/17/2008
I was loyal nightly fan of jazz, blues and international music shows on WBEZ for at least 10 years, and I was very excited when it was briefly reported that WBEZ was making that new station a 24 hour music station. I was very angry when that changed to Vocalo and we lost WBEZ nights to the most boring canned programs in the station's history. I stopped donating after the news came out that they were changing to all talk, and instead have been donating to KCRW in California. I hold out against hope that somehow things will change, but I doubt it as long as Malatia is still there.
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y6 at 2:48 PM on 7/17/2008
Why couldnt WBEZ reconstitute WLUW as the new vocalo with its own frequency, tower, etc? There are tons of folks who would listen to a station with that kind of programming that you could reliably pickup on your home/car radios.
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Cap'n Howdy at 3:27 PM on 7/17/2008
Your complaints about the content are warranted, but realize that it takes user-submitted content. Instead of squeak-leaking mealy fibrous steaming coils of rage via comments on the Reader site, go contribute some content if you're convinced you know what would make for good radio.
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Ol'55 at 3:46 PM on 7/17/2008
Like the people in the article, like the folks at the station, like the posters on this forum...I too am torn. I understand the concept. Build something new, something fresh, something hip, something to deliver news and arts and culture to those under 30, to those would would never ever consider tuning in public radio. But as the piece points out, not only has it not worked, it has sucked-and sucked the life out of the very entity that made it possible (WBEZ)...at the very moment in time when that entity needed the money most to fulfill it's dream of producing the best local coverage anywhere in the country. Mr. Malatia will be remembered as a visionary for giving airtime and incubation time to such worthy projects as This American Life, the Third Coast festival, Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, etc. However I fear that hubris has taken over and he's become Nero, fiddling while WBEZ burns
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whet at 3:58 PM on 7/17/2008
Re Cap'n Howdy: that's a good point, and I do hope for Vocalo's own sake that some people with talent give the station some good material.
But if you listen to the station, and I've listened to it since its inception for probably 15-20 hours, it really doesn't inspire confidence as a vessel for contributions.
The submitted audio that's played is short (which is part of explicit mission of the station), and often just played without any context or any reflection from the hosts; sometimes something that's engaging serves as filler between self-indulgent prattle from the hosts. Not to mention the technical problems they have with audio (which do seem to be improving).
It's hard to say how much of Vocalo's trouble stems from a lack of decent submitted material. But it's worth considering that other problems contribute to the dearth of user-generated content. In anything like this there's a push and pull between the structure of the network and the people who use it. And the structure has to do its part.
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R.Barnes at 4:50 PM on 7/17/2008
"it really doesn't inspire confidence as a vessel for contributions."
Whet, that is one of the best examples of diplomatic understatement I've ever read.
My hat is off to your wordsmithing skills.
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dixie at 6:42 PM on 7/17/2008
I urge BEZ listeners (donors) to use their contributions as a 'vote' against misuse of their money. And I encourage everyone to give WFMT 98.7 a try.
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mucifer at 6:52 PM on 7/17/2008
The people reading this article Abe writing these comments are exactly the population that vocalo is not targeting. Keep your boring WBEZ, and let vocalo talk to the people who need it.
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r.j.zoom at 7:49 PM on 7/17/2008
First, do what can be done to keep successes like WLUW alive--somewhere on the dial. In the meantime, VOCALO is a waste of bandwidth. Fire Malatia already.
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birdman at 8:03 PM on 7/17/2008
Re- Mucifer -- to the people that "need" it? Vocalo purports to serve an audience that is less educated, less wealthy and less white. I think it's great that WBEZ should want to broaden their horizons in this way, but does this audience really "need" dumb-downed radio where nothing is explored in depth? That seems like a condescending idea to me. And if Vocalo isn't "for" the WBEZ audience, then why should that same audience be asked to support it?
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Boatman at 8:09 PM on 7/17/2008
The comments about money that goes to WBEZ through pledge drives directly supporting Vocalo are not really accurate. It'd be nice to see someone from the station address this fallacy, but that's probably not going to happen on a comment board, right?
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andie at 8:20 PM on 7/17/2008
aside from mucifer, nobody gets what vocalo is about. it's pretty simple: make public media truly public by radically changing how people access it.
i encourage everyone to actually read malatia's article in current ( which miner refers), and actually check out vocalo themselves.
miner had to ignore the main point of malatia's article and the majority of stuff on vocalo just to pull out the bits that supported his "malatia is a megalomaniac" and "vocalo is full of weirdos, not journalists" bent.
All I'm saying is if you're going to judge Vocalo (and Malatia), judge 'em on whether or not they achieve what they aim to.
a shortage of funds can bring out peoples' anxieties and resentments. it's understandable. it's expected. big deal.
to create this story, Miner took a WBEZ staffer's off-the-record venting, disregarded the substantive part of malatia's words and missed the point of vocalo entirely to play up some feaux-sibling rivalry.
what kind of legitimate journalism is that?
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birdman at 8:21 PM on 7/17/2008
For what it's worth, I do think it's great that WBEZ/Malatia are experimental, and in some ways, I even admire the Vocalo project for that reason. And I'm more than happy to have less jazz. Not everybody loves jazz after all.
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so-called "Austin Mayor" at 11:26 PM on 7/17/2008
My contributions to WBEZ pledge drives have been siphoned off to the Vocalo disaster?
That isn't what I signed up for and I'm sure as hell not going to fall for it again!
Members give to support the programming they have come to expect from WBEZ -- the pledge drives make that appeal explicitly. It is dishonest for those pledged dollars to be rerouted to a bizarre antithesis of the intended programming.
I wonder of the corporate sponsors of Chicago Public Radio know their contributions are used to fund this perversion of public radio...
-- SCAM
so-called "Austin Mayor"
http://austinmayor.blogspot.com
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R.Barnes at 9:33 AM on 7/18/2008
Some responses:
** mucifer : "The people reading this article Abe writing these comments are exactly the population that vocalo is not targeting. Keep your boring WBEZ, and let vocalo talk to the people who need it." **
Absolutely WBEZ can be boring. No arguments from me there. But Mucifer, are you suggesting that anyone who listens to WBEZ and/or posts to the Reader is an unfair judge of Vocalo? I listen to and read a lot of things; only a small amount of it is WBEZ and the Reader. There are a lot of ways an alternative public radio station could be really appealing to a lot of people, including people who occasionally listen to WBEZ or post comments on Reader articles.
I think most people are completely open to an alternative public radio station and excited about the possibility of something different, intended for a different audience. But who actually needs Vocalo as it is currently done? Are there legions (or even just squadrons) of fans out there we don't know about it? How many listeners/posters does Vocalo actually have? If Vocalo were to disappear tomorrow, how many people not directly affiliated with Vocalo would care? My sense is about a dozen. It's not like Vocalo is a popular station that just a few people are bashing. And yeah, the Vocalo tower isn't up and running yet. But it's been well over a year and Vocalo is available online and is still just as un-listenable now as when it started.
** Boatman: "The comments about money that goes to WBEZ through pledge drives directly supporting Vocalo are not really accurate. It'd be nice to see someone from the station address this fallacy, but that's probably not going to happen on a comment board, right?" **
Boatman, where are you getting your information? The article says "Some Vocalo funding hadn't come through and WBEZ would be making up the shortfall." Are you saying every cent of the WBEZ money used to cover Vocalo came from somewhere other than pledge money? How do you know that? And even if true, it's still indirectly tied to pledge money because money out of the WBEZ coffers is money that WBEZ has to replace.
** andie: "aside from mucifer, nobody gets what vocalo is about. it's pretty simple: make public media truly public by radically changing how people access it.
i encourage everyone to actually read malatia's article in current ( which miner refers), and actually check out vocalo themselves. miner had to ignore the main point of malatia's article and the majority of stuff on vocalo just to pull out the bits that supported his "malatia is a megalomaniac" and "vocalo is full of weirdos, not journalists" bent. All I'm saying is if you're going to judge Vocalo (and Malatia), judge 'em on whether or not they achieve what they aim to." **
Andie, Whet Moser wrote an article on Vocalo more than a year ago (and it is really amazing how little Vocalo has progressed in such a long time). Can be read here for those interested : http://blogs.chicagoreader.com/chicagoland/2007/05/31/toreys-folly/. The Current article came up back then in a few posts. The Current article is here for those interested: http://www.current.org/radio/radio0708malatia.shtml
I read the Current article when it first came out. I read it again before posting this. I have the same criticism now as then: Torey isn't able to describe Vocalo except in negative terms (and how ironic that people who listen to Vocalo seem unable to describe it except in negative terms as well). Torey never had a coherent account of what Vocalo was supposed to be, and in my opinion that incoherence is visible today in Vocalo's consistently bumbling efforts.
And I have checked out Vocalo myself, multiple times over the past year plus. Unfortunately, it is just really, really bad. And I am far from the only person who thinks so.
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R. Barnes at 9:44 AM on 7/18/2008
On the "WBEZ money going to Vocalo" issue. One thing I forgot to mention in my previous post was this part of the article:
"Malatia promised a firewall between Vocalo’s finances and WBEZ’s. But WBEZ found itself sharing an IT staff, a marketing staff, fund-raisers. "
So not only was a huge chunk of WBEZ reserve money used to cover Vocalo's excess losses. But WBEZ's IT, marketing, and fund-raising staff are spending significant amounts of time on Vocalo.
Doesn't WBEZ pledge money go toward the salaries of these people?
I really don't understand how someone can say WBEZ pledge money is not at least partly going toward Vocalo.
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Alex at 10:08 AM on 7/18/2008
birdman: "And if Vocalo isn't "for" the WBEZ audience, then why should that same audience be asked to support it?"
Ding Ding Ding! Birdman is the winner.
I'm assuming anyone here so passionately supporting Vocalo is one of their over-paid and talent-less staff. No one really knew or cared about this crap, at least until now that it is painfully obvious that WBEZ is being gutted for Malatia's self-important experiment. I mean really, when you hear the credits on This American Life or other shows with "management oversight by Tory Malatia" doesn't that just scream megalomaniac? When do you ever hear any other station manager credited on any other public radio programs?
Anyway, let's point the blame at WBEZ's board of directors. After all, they are ultimately responsible for the financial viability of this 503 non-profit organization, and the apparent abuse of member donations.
What kind of Daniel Webster pact does Malatia have with this board, since clearly he is unable to keep the organization from running in the red?
Shame on Malatia and shame on the board of directors for allowing him to run a once great station into the ground!
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Little Donny at 11:37 AM on 7/18/2008
i have been reading this discussion over the last two days, and it does seem that there have been a lot of financial and creative mistakes made in regarrd to Vocalo. I don't particularly enjoy the programming and I also don't believe that they are accomplishing their mission effectively.
That said, I am a fan of public radio generally and I do think that Tory Malatia has brought some really visionary radio to the air. Third Coast and Re:Sound, for example. And This American Life. Having never met the man, I couldn't say whether or not he is a "megalomaniac", and I think it is a little beside the point. I also have to say that the Vocalo staff itself has never struck me as "talent-less" or "over-paid". They seem to have talent in fields outside of radio, and that was why they were brought in.
I can promise you I am not affiliated with Vocalo in any way, and my defense of them here is not a defense of the project. I think it is probably fatally flawed and was poorly thought out.
I wonder if there is any way to get to the bottom of the financial questions everyone has been asking. Can anyone say for sure how the funding works or whether the pledge drive money ended up in Vocalo's pocket?
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mary at 2:43 PM on 7/18/2008
Can you imagine if PBS or NBC started an "alternative" news show that was meant to reach a more diverse audience and they did this by having the newscasters talk explicitly about sex and say "snap!" and "word!"
that'd be insulting right?
the problem with Vocalo is that it isn't really grassroots, it's top-down instead of bottom-up. it's trying too hard.
I think they imagined that with the user generated content, they'd be totally democratic but there's more to radio than just giving someone a mic. instead of teaching kids/people that every single thought that they drool into a microphone or a cell phone has value, put money into training people a real craft, skills they might be able to use later in life. and pay them for their good work -- Vocalo does not pay producers for the work they submit.
maybe instead of trying to start their own 'revolution' WBEZ should have partnered with some of the community radio stations that were already doing really awesome, democratic radio in the community like Radio Arte in Pilsen.
Now, these community radio organizations are competing with Vocalo for the same grants.
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andie at 6:04 PM on 7/18/2008
Alex: you want to play that game? cool. check out Whet Moser's article on Vocalo after the one you cite, available here:http://blogs.chicagoreader.com/chicagoland/2007/06/13/deeper-thoughts-vocalo-and-citizen-journalism/
Basically, he amends his earlier, negative judgments of Vocalo after realizing they were based on unfair assumptions.
Direct quote from Whet Moser: "The reviews [of Pitchfork] got longer and better and gained more readers as the years went by. It never really "broke" or "exploded"--its readership just grew steadily as the product improved.This, it's clearer to me now, is what Vocalo wants to do. Rightly or not, however, it's much harder for established media organizations to grow a project quietly from an experiment into a full-fledged source of content. The early, bad Pitchfork didn't get buried by criticism because it was just some dude's thing, so no one cared if it sucked because no one expected it not to. Chicago Public Radio can't do that, or at least people like me haven't allowed them to."
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mike at 6:55 PM on 7/18/2008
All of us Jazz and Blues lovers that went cold turkey off WBEZ when Malatia dropped the music program are delighted to hear of the stations troubles. Some us supported WBEZ for more than 20 years and now it is unlistenable. I would't really know because I never listen. Sirius Jazz, blues and my Ipod have done a great job of replacing WBEZ. Even if they went back and started playing some music again it is too late. The sad thing is WBEZ was really a great station and one person is totally destroying it.
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AndrewS at 9:14 PM on 7/18/2008
mike,
I can understand your sentiment, but I have to disagree. Sirius Jazz is repetitive and bland at best. WDCB barely comes in for me, and when it does, I don't connect the same way I used to with WBEZ's jazz shows. I love my iPod too, but there is something to be said for being presented with what *used* to be great radio stations including WBEZ, WXRT, WFMT, etc by getting exposure to music and local connections that you would not otherwise discover left to ones own devices. WLUW is the only game in town for this now to some extent, but for me it is still limiting with regard to range of genres. It is bizarre that we can't have a major *good* eclectic music station in such a diverse and rich music city.
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amyp135 at 11:51 PM on 7/18/2008
I am an inveterate NPR listener--from my days on the East Coast in college to my adult life here (30+ years). I have never fully identified with BEZ, though I generally enjoyed its diverse musical programming along with Morning Edition, Saturday Edition, All Things Considered, and Marketplace. When Torey Malatia was hired, a friend in the business expressed dismay about the direction in which the Board wanted to take the station, and sadly has been been proven right. I'll never understand how 24 hours of talk (much of it recycled) beats the wonderful late night jazz, or blues before sunrise.I had no idea that vocalo even existed, and am genuinely shocked that BEZ's money could be funding such a stupid-sounding venture. (Excuse me; they need a TOWER before they have proven themselves worthwhile? If they're $300,000 over budget, obviously the money is coming from BEZ!) It's worth noting that NPR scrapped a similar project (web only, however). My donations go to WDCB from now on because I care about supporting NPR, not BEZ. I look forward to Mr. Malatia's departure, which I sincerely hope will come sooner, rather than later.
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MMS at 2:24 AM on 7/19/2008
I quote"And instead of breaking even, WBEZ was $887,000 in the hole. A couple other Chicago Public Radio ventures with separate budgets, its Third Coast International Audio Festival and Greg Kot and Jim DeRogatis’s rock talk show Sound Opinions, also ran deficits. Even This American Life just broke even after making half a million dollars for Chicago Public Radio the year before. "The good news is that we have net assets that take care of this," says Malatia. "But this year we’ll have to be very careful.""
Hey there -= doesn't this indicate how sad/mad many of us "old listeners" are about the changes in programming; the cutting of Piano Jazz and most other jazz - moreseo now with Dick Buckley out - and the loss of Blues before Sunrise, and Malatia's previous statements about "wanting to change the demographics of the listeners"..well get your new $$ from your supposedly new listeners - which you are obviously NOT doing. I am a PREVIOUS donor - no more....
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jesse washington at 2:53 PM on 7/20/2008
What a squandered opportunity.
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Jerry Peterson at 9:20 AM on 7/21/2008
What kills me is the notion that if Vocalo goes up on a tower for more covereage at 89.5 mhz. it likely will interefere with listening to WNIJ out of Dekalb. WNIJ has every bit the quality programming WBEZ does, especially considering it carrys the Diane Rheem Show. WNIJ listeners in certain areas will no longer hear this fine station.
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chauncy at 9:32 AM on 7/21/2008
The mess over there is even bigger than this article makes out. The staff at BEZ tend to make less money than staff at npr affiliates with a comparable listener-base. Malatia's move to hire only non-radio folks for Vocalo slots was, understandably, interpreted as a slap in the face by senior production staff who wanted more creative freedom. So, you have a staff of underpaid professionals who are disgruntled about a lack of salary equity who are then told that their work (no matter how many years they've been at the station) is too "old guard" to fit the new model. Then members of the old-guard production team are then asked to train all the Vocalo people, people who are isolated from the rest of the staff. How could Malatia not understand how undercutting the work of his core product/staff in favor of a very expensive and risky side venture might lead to a catastrophic drop in employee morale?
Anyway, it's clearly not just a matter of fiscal resources, it's a matter of human resources being misused....
Also, there's an irony here that nobody has pointed out: Malatia "public affairs" focus on BEZ basically lead to him creating a more homogeneous product -- the very anti-localized programming beast that Vocalo was supposed to slay.
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R.Barnes at 11:56 AM on 7/21/2008
Andie, I assume your comment addressed to Alex was meant for me, since I was the one who posted the link to Whet's article.
Your quote from the later Whet Moser article isn't relevant. Whet is talking about a possible model Vocalo aspires to; he's not saying it doesn't suck (in fact in that second article he reaffirms that his earlier criticisms are accurate). Whet is saying "maybe I jumped on them too early instead of giving them time to get better."
Well, it's now a year later. A long time for Vocalo to have improved. What does Whet think of it now? I am pleased to once again quote the great line: "it really doesn't inspire confidence as a vessel for contributions."
Not to mention that regardless of what you think of Vocalo, killing WBEZ and raiding WBEZ's coffers to fund Vocalo was never part of the plan.
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manthechange at 11:50 AM on 7/22/2008
As the Operations Manager for a non-profit music radio station - I was thrilled when I first heard rumblings about :Vocalo more than a year ago.
I was so thrilled at this prospect that I spent hours preparing a compelling auditon package that should have fit what this cutting-edge radio station was to embody. Of course, it wasn't publicized that they'd be specifically NOT hiring people with radio experience (I mean really, what sense would that make?) - despite the fact that they publicized openings at the station on all of the public radio job boards.
I have tried in earnest to listen to this station throughout the past year. As most posts have noted it is, for the most part, unlistenable (even for those of us who are ardent public radio fans). What a shame. This guy (MALatia) really must have some leverage with his board...if my station started losing money on an idea like that - it would be canned immediately. Sounds like the "listener-members" are already getting the message.
Bottom line: :Vocalo is embarrasing for all of us involved in public radio. Even those of us who live 1000 miles from Chicago.
One last thing, Chicago has such a fantastic music scene (free jazz, indie)...and it's sad that this station wasn't dedicated to that!
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Tom G. at 12:11 PM on 7/22/2008
Malatia is no visionary. He did not create This American Life. He takes credit for it. He had almost nothing to do with it. Former WBEZ Program Director Ken Davis put that show on the air. Do you think Glass asked Malatia questions about how to make a radio show? How to do a certain week's show? Never. The only connection is Glass says his name at the end of the show. That makes Malatia famous and the board of WBEZ lets him do what he wants.
And he does little of interest. It's a station with a lot of money. We give them the money. What has Malatia done with our money? One or two local programs are listenable, but nothing amazing. Please don't think This American Life. That's the problem. That's good and that's his excuse for staying and the rest is so bad. And Glass has already moved to New York! Wait Wait Don't tell me is a National Public Radio show, they came to Chicago and asked if they could rent studio space. That is his contribution to that. He has no creative input into that show. The rock and roll show had to beg for months until they were allowed to come to WBEZ. They wanted out of the commercial station they were on. What do you mean he's a visionary? What has he created here? Do you really truly think the local programs are that good? Of course we all love Morning Edition and All Things Considered and Scott Simon but after those end, do you think the local programs are that great? Do you really like them that much? So much of the good will to WBEZ is because people love those NPR shows - and there really isn't much else that's any good on the radio. But if you separate the NPR shows from the local ones, there is not that much to really love on WBEZ. I've heard the public radio stations in New York, Minnesota, Los Angeles, and Boston. They all make WBEZ sound pretty bad. It kind of sounds like amateur hour. Why do we accept that in Chicago? Why is it so lame? Who could possibly think that Malatia is anything like a visionary?
Before sucky Vocalo Malatia spent like FOUR MILLION dollars to make Odyssey a national program. Failure. He spent a lot of money on staffers for that new midday show that never happened. Many people worked on that for months - nothing to show. I know he has spent at least TWO MILLION DOLLARS on Vocalo! Everybody knows it'll never take off. As the last guy said, Vocalo is embarassing. What a waste of our pledge money! Of course it is being diverted from project that could have happened at WBEZ! Make those shows better. Make new good shows there. With professionals. But no- this crazy stupid idea. By the way, I heard that Vocalo was not even Tory Malatia's idea, but some board member's idea. It might even be an okay idea. But Malatia does not know how to pull it off. He can't hire the right people. Think of all the good people who used to be on that station who aren't now! Everyone I know who works there is so frustrated with him. He's a terrible manager. Malatia has shown that he can not give us a good radio station. A visionary? I also heard that the public radio system did a study and WBEZ was the only big station in serious decline. Will Malatia show us the study? Does the board know about it? Any comment? Maybe if people who want a better station write on this board it will have an effect. I hope the WBEZ board is reading this. Mr. Malatia a visionary? I'm sure he is not stupid, but he has proven that he can not give us a good radio station. They try this, they try that, they make changes, and it never gets good. He has proven he can not judge what is good and what is bad. Or even what people want to listen to and what they don't. Some of the stuff is great - but unfortunately, the garbage that they broadcast day after day makes you turn off the radio. They need an editor there.
A lot of people in Chicago could run a better radio station. I will not contribute until Malatia's gone. And then we will truly hear the diversity of this region, including the quality here.
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Erin L. at 12:32 PM on 7/22/2008
Mucifer is absolutely right. Don't "Reader" readers have any self-awareness? If the content on Vocalo is user-driven and you're still calling it "low-brow," then aren't you the ones guilty of condescension? Everyone knows the Reader caters to the North Side, upper-middle class demographic (of which I am a part), as does WBEZ. Hooray for the WBEZ "establishment" for trying to shake things up by giving a marginalized voice some air time. Of course there will be rapprochement and entrenchment, like there always is when real social change is taking place. And of course there is an incubation period (often years) before positive results of an experiment are demonstrated. Shame on all of you for ostentatiously crying about your $50 annual CPR donation going to something you claim to not know about and then turning right around and posting these conservative protests on your safe, sacred-cow of a media outlet (i.e. The Reader). Good on whoever suggested you complain instead on Vocalo's website where your position might actually generate a genuine debate with the silent majority side, which I guarantee is not reading this blog post.
Look, just because our precious WBEZ is reallocating some resources away from programming that caters to our taste doesn't mean we have to get all "petty" [sic] bourgeois about it. Making a little room for more voices and putting our money where our collective mouths are on addressing Chicago's class and racial divides is NOT mutually exclusive of getting our Saturday morning on with "Wait, Wait." There's no need to feel threatened as there's room for everyone - why don't we share a little?
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R.Barnes at 2:29 PM on 7/22/2008
Some responses to Erin L.
"Of course there will be rapprochement and entrenchment, like there always is when real social change is taking place."
Real social change? Vocalo?
I just checked the latest Shout Box on Vocalo: "If the opportunity presented itself, would you consider getting back together with any of your former boyfriends/girlfriends?"
I didn't see any replies.
And of course there is "gay or not gay": http://blogs.chicagoreader.com/chicagoland/2008/07/16/vocalomentum/
And for those who missed it, reactions from a first-time Vocalo listener (one who thinks WBEZ is boring, lifeless, and needs to change): http://blogs.chicagoreader.com/chicagoland/2008/07/17/actual-quotes-first-time-vocalo-listener-wrt-disco/
Yes, real social change.
"And of course there is an incubation period (often years) before positive results of an experiment are demonstrated."
Except this experiment is costing many hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions. And the cost is only increasing. And the expense is being borne at least in part by people who were not asked if they wanted to bear it.
Vocalo is not a self-funded experiment being tried on the cheap by some people out of their basement. Vocalo is a totally different beast than something like Pitchfork.
Vocalo is a relatively high profile, very expensive, top-down-created alternative radio station. It is not hyperbole to think that CPR may be bankrupted if Vocalo's "incubation period" is allowed to last much longer. And that's why it's nonsense to dismiss criticisms of Vocalo on the grounds that it just needs more time.
"Look, just because our precious WBEZ is reallocating some resources away from programming that caters to our taste"
Once more, for those who seem to not understand: Torey Malatia and co. promised there would be a "firewall" between WBEZ and Vocalo. WBEZ money was not to go to Vocalo; Vocalo's failure was not to financially impact WBEZ. People who pledged to WBEZ were not told they would be helping support Vocalo.
Instead, Vocalo is using many of WBEZ's resources, and hundreds of thousands of dollars of WBEZ money went to cover Vocalo's expenses.
If Vocalo wants to have its own pledge drives or web drives, they should certainly be free to do so. If the next WBEZ pledge drive explains to people that they may be supporting not just WBEZ but also Vocalo, great. But that's not what happened.
"If the content on Vocalo is user-driven and you're still calling it "low-brow," then aren't you the ones guilty of condescension?"
Your "north side snobbery" criticism would only begin to be feasible if:
1) lots of people like Vocalo
2) the lots of people who like Vocalo are not, as a group, north siders
and
3) the people who dislike Vocalo are, as a group, north siders
We have no reason to believe *any* of the above are true. But by all means, if you have some evidence, please share it.
For starters, I have yet to see any evidence that Vocalo has anything approaching a substantive fan base. It seems to me the only people who defend it are the people who work there, their friends and relatives, and a very small number of Vocalo "users." Everyone else seems to not know it exists or hate it.
Erin L., if you want to support Vocalo financially, go for it. But it's not north side condescension to not want to pay for a really crappy radio station.
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bez listener at 3:17 PM on 7/22/2008
Just one thing I'd like to see mentioned while everyone is venting about the terrible decisions that have been made at WBEZ in the last few years and the dearth of truly wonderful local programming: Chicago Public Radio has/had some really wonderful reporters on its local news team. I'd give individual shout-outs if I thought I could spell their names, but as I understand it, the Chicago Public Radio news room has a reputation for training top notch reporters and that really did (and hopefully still does: http://blogs.chicagoreader.com/chicagoland/2008/07/21/wbez-brickyard/) show through in the local stories you hear during Morning Edition, ATC, and 848. It just absolutely KILLS me to think that some of these fantastic voices may be driven away because of the way the station appears to be valuing them. I don't know if the money for :Vocalo goes through channels that protect the station from being publicly accountable (can't you do straight up salary comparisons at NPR, as uncomfortable as that may be?). But even still, and even trying to respect the big picture of what the folks at :Vocalo are trying to accomplish – I hate to think that the trained local reporters are being forced to freelance while money gets pumped into guaranteed salaries at the experimental station that so far seems less than promising (whatever you think about the idea, the execution is pretty worrisome).
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ms. cicero at 4:32 PM on 7/22/2008
The fundamental problem is that Malatia basically opened a restaurant with a bunch of people who can't cook, and have very little experience cooking, and he did it on purpose. For crying out loud he hired someone who was an intern at the station for, like, four months before she started at Vocalo. That's absurd.
And talk about elitist: what's more elitist than Vocalo, which is basically a product of mismanaged market research?
Now inevitable has happened and the station sucks, because -- big surprise -- radio actually takes some skill to pull off.
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some girl at 9:17 PM on 7/22/2008
i stopped listening to WBEZ when the jazz stopped. WDCB does not come close, with their narrow exposure to jazz and substandard range of jazz programming. i heard about vocalo a year ago from a youngster who works at the station, and thought it was a high school project based on how she described it. don't listen to radio anymore and i blame it completely on the removal of jazz programming on WBEZ. the absolute low point was the final evening of jazz. it was painful to hear the hosts talk, as they were trying to make sense of what was happening on air.
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Koji at 9:49 AM on 7/23/2008
As a WBEZ montly subscriber/supporter I am not pleased with Vocalo. It is like Red Eye on the Radio Waves, and it seems like there are fewer and fewer places to go for serious news. I started feeling sad when I lost my lunch hour with Gretchen Helfrich. what's next to go, Car Talk?!
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so-called "Austin Mayor" at 12:02 PM on 7/23/2008
I think that the most significant issue regarding :Vocalo is the matter of its clandestine funding.
Listeners to 91.5FM give money to Chicago Public Radio with the express understanding that their pledge dollars will go to paying for the programming they have "come to expect" from WBEZ.
The individual donors and corporate sponsors give money to support the national programming from NPR and PRI and to fund the local programs they hear on BEZ. They don't pledge to fund Torey Malatia's anti-radio experiment/ego trip.
If only there were a word for a not-for-profit organization taking tax-deductible donations and "re-purposing" them in a manner contrary to the organization's solicitation -- i.e. pledges from WBEZ listeners during WBEZ pledge drives that interrupt WBEZ programming -- and counter to the express intentions of the donors...
Is "Vocalo" Latin for "fraud"?
-- SCAM
so-called "Austin Mayor"
http://austinmayor.blogspot.com
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Legalese at 12:39 PM on 7/23/2008
I think that there is certainly a possibility that this counts as "deceptive practices" if not Fraud.
If any disgruntled members are lawyers willing to work pro bono, maybe there's a case there.
It wouldn't be the first one, check out this article from Current--the public broadcasting trade mag--
http://www.current.org/pb/pb0811donorintent.shtml
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Uncat at 9:39 PM on 7/23/2008
Seeing all these comments made me tune in to Vocalo for the first time ever. God, what a mess! If I was being generous I'd say that some of the recorded stuff is halfway interesting, but the hosts are less engaging & coherent than the random drunk people down at the corner tavern.
I realize that there's a significant percentage of the population that doesn't like professionalism or competence, for whatever reason. I do question whether putting amateurishness on the radio is a good way to reach anybody, even the competence-phobes.
Malatia's mini-manifesto in Current is an interesting read -- he spent a long section explaining how public radio wasn't reaching a significant percentage of the population. He also talked about the focus groups they put together, and how they didn't like WBEZ. What he left out of that cavalcade of negativity was what the focus-groupers wanted in place of WBEZ, which is the $2-million-dollar question. Does anybody know what the focus groups said they wanted from public radio? More scatological references? More random edits? More sophomoric, shallow conversations?
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s.price at 8:22 AM on 7/24/2008
I find vocalo engaging and surprising and fun -- something truly different. No, I don't work there but I have submitted my voice several times.
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mr. question at 6:36 PM on 7/24/2008
Surprise parties are fun and different, too, but they don't cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
The questions is, is it worth the investment of time, money and people (not to mention the long-term rancour it caused at BEZ)?
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BRIAN BABYLON at 7:12 PM on 7/24/2008
WOW!! This is a great conversation that we are having. Since I am a vocalo HOST I would LOVE if people would not hide behind user names and BLOGS! That is so LAME!! Why not call in to vocalo from 7-10AM M-F. I would love to talk to you. Or how about you come up and do some radio yourself. (And I wont FOX news you) I agree 100% with E.LYONS comments, the public airwaves are not just for north side READER types. You folk sound like people who wear OBAMA buttons but vote for Bob Barr. CALL IN ANY TIME 312-893-2993 7-10 AM or email me brian@vocalo.org. Don't be shy!
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COREY CONSTANTINOPLE at 7:53 PM on 7/24/2008
So, you're telling us that Brian Babylon is the name on your drivers license?
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BRIAN BABYLON at 8:42 PM on 7/24/2008
To COREY CONSTANTINOPLE
Nope it is JOHNSON!! Babylon has a cool ring to it. Was that a lil jab like I am Hiding behind the "Babylon"? I gave a bloody phone number.. come on man!
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BRIAN BABYLON at 9:20 PM on 7/24/2008
COREY CONSTANTINOPLE I just got that!! That is very clever!! Stop trying to be like me ;-)
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Helen at 8:50 PM on 7/25/2008
Right when some of the best Jazz programming was eliminated from WBEZ, I called to complain and I was told that the new station would offer music programming. Ok, so I decided not to cancel my monthly donation. I can't say I never gave Vocalo a chance. I tried but found myself tuning off or listening to something else after 5 minutes. You can't compare it to college radio. Is it being broadcast from the WBEZ studios or a basement? I disliked the music interruptions every 15 seconds during a discussion or topic.
I don't think I will be renewing my membership again or at least anytime soon. I feel misled. I miss Jazz music. I want a refund!
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Michael Muğla at 9:58 PM on 7/25/2008
I don't even know where to begin with Brian Babylon's comment. I would LOVE if he didn't use CAPITALS to HIDE his lack of verbal skills. Anyway,
1) So, if we don't like the station, we have to call you and further discuss something we don't like? Why? Do I have an obligation to call and further discuss every piece of media output I don't like? I have a job.
2) Since we've never claimed that we could do better (only that college radio IS better), why are you challenging us to make our own programming? Radio requires skill and training - you can get a college degree in it for goodness sake. Since I don't have that skill and training, I don't try to put stuff on air and I prefer that other people with equal skills didn't either.
3) People who wear Obama buttons and vote for Bob Barr? I'm sorry, but what? So, people against putting amateurs on the public airwaves are closet conservatives? Can you flesh that argument out a little, not just drop a bomb?
4) How do you not hide behind a blog when you're commenting on a blog? Is a new piece of blog etiquette to post your name, address, phone number, and SSN with every comment?
5) I would love to learn even more about vocalo, but unfortunately I have to log in to read the "Mission" and "How To" pages.
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JMS at 11:00 AM on 7/26/2008
Listening now. Not so bad, really. I certainly would like it more if I were younger.
It is interesting how many people who had not heard of this a week ago are now outraged. (nice work, Mr. Miner, strike one up for old school journalism!) It's not the worst thing in the world and any attempts at new radio should be welcomed.
As for Torey Malatia, it is fashionable to dislike him but odds are your favorite shows or parts of WBEZ you like were probably (positively) touched by him.
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some girl at 8:19 AM on 7/27/2008
hello JMS - "As for Torey Malatia, it is fashionable to dislike him but odds are your favorite shows or parts of WBEZ you like were probably (positively) touched by him." - you mean like Jazz Programming?
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Frank from Evanston at 5:35 PM on 8/1/2008
Congratulations on a good story. Vocalo's big waste of money & bad execution should be enough to get Malatia fired. But I hope Hot Type and Michael Miner will look again at WBEZ. Talk to people who work there. You will hear mucho discontent. People frustrated because the management is so sucky. Talk to a lot of people who work there. They'll tell you that. Talk to the good radio personalities who will have nothing to do with that station until management changes. Talk to people who work in public radio in other cities, they will tell you that in many ways Malatia's cock-eyed ideas are a huge laughing-stock. JMS wrote - Malatia (positively) touched what is good at WBEZ. No - he keeps a lot of really good stuff off the air because they don't want to work with him. And he spends so much money every month on pretty bad stuff. I hope the Reader will do this story. Blow the lid off .
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readerfan at 12:04 PM on 8/2/2008
Well Michael, it seems you have touched a nerve with Malatia and his pal Robert Feder. If you didn't see the poke Feder gave you earlier this week, see below. I suppose this was his attempt to discredit you? What an idiot. Anyone who has been paying attention to his column for even the shortest amount of time could see right though it. Disgusting abuse of his position. Feder should be fired for his back-door form of "reporting" what he is fed (appropriately named Feder!) by media bosses, especially Malatia. At the very least Feder is one of the most unethical "columnists" in Chicago press. What is really amusing to me is how stupid they think everyone observing what is going on is. Note to Malatia and Feder: neither of you are fooling anyone. It's just a matter of time before the lid is indeed blown, as Frank in the post above mentioned.
Keep us updated Michael. This is an important story, and other news outlets in the city should be embarrassed for missing it.
Robert Feder on July 29:
"It was amusing to see Chicago Reader media critic Michael Miner chide a Trib columnist in his blog Monday for not knowing that a Chicago Journalism Hall of Fame already exists. That's the same Michael Miner who wrote in his column last May that he had never heard of the Radio Hall of Fame in Chicago. When I pointed out to Miner that I've reported on the Radio Hall of Fame countless times since it opened here in 1992, he replied: "It didn't register."
Who freaking cares? This is news? No, this is Feder doing a favor for Malatia. I think if you look up cronyism in the dictionary you'll find Feder's picture.
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would like to listen, but it's bad at 9:01 PM on 8/2/2008
The story is- WBEZ is losing lots of listeners. People are giving up because the station gets worse and worse and worse. Numbers are way down. Morale is horrible. People listen to podcasts from other stations. WBEZ's board needs to do something about it quick. Wholesale changes are necessary. Top down. Miner- please do this story!
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Jerry R. at 5:31 PM on 8/8/2008
I am not surprised that Mr. Malatia says one thing and tries to do another. He is not trustworthy. I've had business dealings with Torey Malatia. My experience confirms what others who dealt with him have passed along to me. Mr. Malatia is not an upstanding man of his word. If he says Vocalo will be separate, don't believe him. As long as he is in charge of WBEZ, do not be surprised that the station goes bad and that he lies about it. The word from a lot of people in Chicago who deal with him is that Torey Malatia is a snake and a snake oil salesman.
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JaneDoeChicago at 1:19 PM on 8/16/2008
Well since Vocalo keeps getting compared to college radio lets take it all the way. When you pay your tuition you pay fees that support all community services whether or not you utilize them. There is no list of what those services are on your bill. To find out what is supported by the student fees, you look in your handbook. If you look at the CPR website Vocalo is there. It is not hidden and I suspect that it is not widely advertised or even openly 'owned' by CPR because it has not been officially launched yet.
I can not comment on Malatia's honesty because I don't know him and I have no idea what it is to run a large radio station or the hard decisions that need to be made in regards to finances. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and say that perhaps he had a vision of how he hoped things would go and has had to adjust the plan accordingly as situations (like deficits) have arisen because that is what happens in life. I'm thinking his original plan was to maintain the firewall between the finances but when the money wasn't there, perhaps it was more feasible to breakdown the firewall than to abandon the investment altogether. There are no guarantees, especially with money in our current economy.
I've been happy with WBEZ for a few years now and have welcomed the programming changes. Being that we are discussing a public entity I guess it is par for the course that someone is always going to be pissed off and feel like they aren't getting what they want. I have no problem making room for other voices on the air. Just because I may not always want to hear those voices doesn't mean they should be silenced or seen as inferior or unworthy.We are talking about the voices of our community- for better or worse. Like it or not an unseasoned/untalented/untrained voice to you may be speaking truth to other members of this community. I am always free to turn the channel if I don't like it. Public radio has huge gaps and holes in it services and commercial radio has sucked for a long time. Vocalo has some exciting promise. I hope it is able to explore that potential and thrive.
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Paul Douglas at 10:30 AM on 8/20/2008
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What is that. Clearly you cant write!! I like vocalo a little bit, I can see they will get better over time. From last year to now is like night and day! It is better than AIR AMERICA!! I bet you clowns loved that crap!
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jm at 10:21 PM on 9/2/2008
Well, if you want to hear it in Malatia's own words, please feel free to visit
http://www.vocaloandwbez.blogspot.com/
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