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      <![CDATA[It seems that some people like to Dumpster Dive in The suburbs these days. I saw a news story and some guy with a Liberace/Elvis Presley Pompadour hairdo was really gettig all pumped up in the snow to go Dumpster Diving. I guess it takes all types in this town. Tell him to stay away from the cat food.That stuff will have him confined to a hospital and eating Banquet T.V. Dinners with little cans of Sprite.
        
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      <![CDATA[.... because I have nothing else in my life.
        
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      <![CDATA[I'm Back !
    
    As fast as you delete, I can repost.  We can play this game all day !
        
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      <![CDATA[How long before your heirs divvy up your assets, pick through the personal items you leave behind, and toss most of them into a dumpster?
        
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      <![CDATA[http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/26/us/26Santa.html?...
    
     The guy looks more like a young Pat Levar.
    
     On the subject of Alderman Manny Flores. He doubled crossed allot of people that helped him get elected and those same people will work against him his next election.
    
    hello jesse!!!
        
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      <![CDATA[Life is beautiful, but the afterlife isn't. My riches will be naught in Heaven. My meanness will send me to Hell. *waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh*
        
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      <![CDATA[I'm such a loser I never let up.  Not even on Christmas Day.
        
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      <![CDATA[This guy reminds me of Frank Coconate.http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/26/us/26Santa.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
        
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    <author><![CDATA[re oreo]]></author>
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      <![CDATA["Another year on the books, building up to a Bobbie Steele-like pension.....", and a stroger sr. culmination.
    
    Your relatives are hoping for an extra special Xmas in 2009.
        
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      <![CDATA["You don&acirc;&#128;&#153;t live in the Fifth Congressional District, right?
    
    I don&acirc;&#128;&#153;t, but I grew up in the district."
    
    Mick, you dimwitted poor excuse for a journalist--MANNY DIDN'T GROW UP IN THE DISTRICT!!!
    HE GREW UP IN TEXAS AND LEYDEN!!!
    You allowed him to make a false statement.
        
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      <![CDATA[Great Comments about the Reader's demise:
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    If it means the end of this worthless blog, then it is worth it.
        
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      <![CDATA[Life is beautiful.
    Another year on the books, building up to a Bobbie Steele-like pension.....
        
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      <![CDATA[I missed this part:
    http://blogs.chicagoreader.com/news-bites/2008/12/22/reader-remains-hands-creative-loafing/
    
    time to fire up the old resume, eh ?
        
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      <![CDATA[Re: All commenters
    You can criticize me or anyone else you like all you want, but if we continue to get bigoted, homophobic, or sexually graphic comments, the whole comment board will be removed. Then, "Orion" et al, you'll have to return to the old boring routine of pleasuring yourselves in private.
        
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      <![CDATA[I am very interested in locating the substandard construction in the 1 ward,or any other ward in Chicago. Please help. I want to start a class action law suit against Daley .
        
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      <![CDATA[http://207.41.16.133/rfcViewFile/08cr1061.pdf 
    
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      <![CDATA[RAHM EMANUEL: This is Rahm.
    
    ROD BLAGOJEVICH: Hey Rahm, yeah it's Rod.
    
    EMANUEL: Uh-huh. What's going on governor, I'm busy.
    
    BLAGO: Well, it's about that Senate appointment...
    
    EMANUEL: We already gave you the list of people we like.
    
    BLAGO: Yeah, I been looking the list over. Interesting names. Good people. How's the transition going?
    
    EMANUEL: It's going fine, governor. Are you calling to fucking tell me anything, or what, cause I--
    
    BLAGO: No no, I'm just wondering if you have all your picks already made. I heard something about Dashle for HHS--
    
    EMANUEL: I'm not gonna discuss ongoing deliberations, gov, you know that. 
    
    BLAGO: Hey, come on Rahm, let's not act like I'm a stranger here.
    
    EMANUEL: Did I call you a stranger? If I thought you were a stranger, you think I'd be interrupting my important fucking business to take this fucking phone call?
    
    BLAGO: Hey you don't have to get curt with me, Rahm.
    
    EMANUEL: This isn't me being curt, Gov, this is me being fucking busy. Now what did you call about?
    
    BLAGO: I'm just feeling you out, seeing if Valerie [Jarret] still wants that Senate seat, just wondering what kind of priority that is for the President-Elect.
    
    EMANUEL: Actually, it's not a priority. Valerie's had second thoughts about the job.
    
    BLAGO: What, she doesn't want it anymore?
    
    EMANUEL: She's having second thoughts. You want more details, you ask her.
    
    BLAGO: She won't take my calls.
    
    EMANUEL: Big fucking surprise.
    
    BLAGO: What's that supposed to mean?
    
    EMANUEL: Um, I don't know, what's it supposed to mean governor? A.) You're a fucking crook. B.) You're a fucking asshole. C.) All of the above.
    
    BLAGO: I'm clean Rahm, you know this. You think that fucking Fitzgerald would being twiddling his fucking thumbs if he had shit to go on?
    
    EMANUEL: I gotta go, Gov. You appoint who you want, we really don't give a shit.
    
    BLAGO: What if I appoint Valerie, what if she takes it?
    
    EMANUEL: What do you want me to say? We'd appreciate it, I'm not gonna fucking kiss your ring over it.
    
    BLAGO: "Appreciate it"? Come on, this is a senate seat we're talking about. It's worth a fuck of a lot more than appreciation.
    
    EMANUEL: You asked us for a list, we gave you a fucking list, you want to make your own list then make your own fucking list. [Raising voice] But if you're asking for anything else from me, or Barack, or Valerie, then you can fucking stop talking right now Rod.
    
    BLAGO: Wait a sec there Rahm. Wait just a fucking minute. Who are you to talk to me like that? I fucking made you.
    
    EMANUEL: You made me? You made me? Tell me you're fucking joking.
    
    BLAGO: No no no, you listen to me shit-face. You see this list I got, the names motherfucking Obama fucking wants for the Senate. I just ripped it in two. How you like that? Oops, Harris just dropped it in the shredder. Harris?
    
    HARRIS (muffled): Yes sir?
    
    BLAGO: Did you just drop that list in the shredder?
    
    [Whirring, shredder noise]
    
    HARRIS (muffled): I did.
    
    EMANUEL: Do you have me on fucking speakerphone?
    
    BLAGO: It's in the shredder, Rahm. The list is bye bye.
    
    EMANUEL: Hold on a sec -- you got me on fucking speakerphone? Who the fuck do you think I am?
    
    BLAGO: Who are you Rahm? Who are you? You're shit, you hear me? Don't come back to Chicago Rahm, it's not your town any more.
    
    EMANUEL: Pick up the phone Rod.
    
    BLAGO: I'll put someone in the senate who will fucking fuck you. I might even put myself in there, how you like that Rahm? How you gonna explain that to fucking Barack, every time he's gotta call me up for my fucking vote. He'd have to take my calls then, wouldn't he?
    
    EMANUEL: [Screaming] I said pick up the FUCKING phone!
    
    BLAGO: [Picks up phone, speakerphone off] I got your attention now, didn't I?
    
    EMANUEL: Shut the fuck up and listen to me for one second Rod. And I want you to listen carefully, because this is the last time I'm ever going to talk to you. You are fucking dead to me. You been fucking dead to Barack since '06, now you're dead to me. Know what that means? That means you're dead to my people in Chicago, Daley on down, and all these friends you think you have aren't gonna touch you with a ten foot fucking pole.
    
    BLAGO: Oh now you're the fucking Godfather? Fuck you.
    
    EMANUEL: No fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.
    
    BLAGO: Fuck you!
    
    EMANUEL: Listen up asshole. The shit's gonna hit the fan, maybe tomorrow, maybe next month, and when Fitz finally brings down the hammer it's gonna be my name that's going through your head. You won't know the hows or the fucking whys, but it's gonna have my fucking fingerprints all over it. Have a great life fatso.
    
    BLAGO: Hey fuck--
    
    EMANUEL: [Click.]
    
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      <![CDATA[Manny Flores wants to run for Congress in the 4th and than the 5th--well which is it? and does it matter to him or all districts the same?
    
    Mick,
    You let Manny Flores get away with a couple of real whoppers:
    1. That Manny has lived in the 5th District all his life.  Many lived in Texas. Manny lived in Leyden Township.  Manny lived in Bensenville before he falsified an address in Chicago.  That is Bensenville as in DuPage County.
    Manny lived in DC for law school.
    Manny had an address in Lakeview (the 44th ward) for a little bit.
    He did not even live in the 1st ward for a year when he ran and he challenged the residency law and won. So how did he grow up in the District?  Is he talking about Texas or Henry Hydes old seat?
    
    2. Did you ask Manny about all the developer money he takes? or all the development in his ward?
    or his connections to developers that have been in the news?
    That is called pay to play.
    
    3. One of his big supporters and friends is the DEPUTY GOVERNOR FOR ROD BLAGOJEVICH!!!! no resignation and being part of a financial mess
    
    4. The Green stuff sounds great but how many green businesses are actually in the 1st ward?
    How many vacancies are in the Cooper lamp building?
    An idea and rhetoric is great but what is he actually doing?
    
    What are the foreclosure rates in the 1st ward?  and eviction?
    and property tax increase rates?
    what about substandard construction?
    
    Why don't you ask the aldermen you mentioned and ask Mell and Schulter what they think of Flores?
    Flores is like GRod insofar that he can't tell the truth and lies and backstabs and lies some more.
    
    Mick, you let Manuel Flores with his $100,000 legal education get away with making material mistatements of fact.  That is very bad journalism and even worse aldermaning.  
    
    Manny is a pay to play fundraising quid pro qou money man who does conflict of interest fundraising with developers.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Mick Fan]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Why are we so obsess with green,when we allowed Daley and his housing and development scam,erode our Industrial base.We are Green with no jobs. The green revolution will have to be kick started with National policies. Daley and his minions are not smart enough to Reengineer our Industrial base,with Green technology. Many the Green advocates are Green because it appears Hip or chic
        
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          Posted by Mick Fan]]>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:37:45 -0600</pubDate> 
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