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      <title>Comments On: Transparency on TIFs
    
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    <author><![CDATA[Azteca Mall & Alderman Ricardo Munoz]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Well, if you help drown the tax payer you get politicians to help you succeed.
    
    However, if you refuse TIF, as Azteca Mall has done for almost a year and a half, an alderman, like Ricardo Munoz from the 22nd ward, brings you and over 135 families to the brink of bankruptcy by refusing to fulfill his zoning change promise.
        
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      <![CDATA[I think you mean there's no excuse for NOT making the information more accessible ;-)
        
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      <![CDATA[Waguspack is my hero. Go get Daley.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Wanted]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Wanted:  People that bring sunshine to corruption in Daley Adminstration.
    
    No one wants your fetish with Peraica Cocanate or Jackson.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[With Daley, Things May Be.....]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Shitty, But with Tony Peraica, Jesse Jackass Juniah, Frank Coconutty......Things would be EVEN shittier!!!!!!!!. A fucking hell in a handbasket. But YOU ASSHOLES would call IT "paradise".
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Sunshine]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Letting the sun shine on the way Daley cuts his deals will fry a lot of people including Daley. 
    
    Hitting up banks with more regulations and enforcement is good, we got the same with Daleys slush funds.
        
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      <![CDATA[Another example of why Second City Cop is the blog of substance:
    
    
    
    "THIS white man has NEVER supported Richard M Daley or his father before him, I am old enough to have voted against Richard J Daley twice.
    
    I didn't support the old man and I despise the son. And for quite a while I lived out in Edison Park.
    
    It doesn't much matter though what people say they like or don't like about Daley. Real world fact is that barely 30% of voters even bothered to vote in the Mayoral election of 2007. What they say now is bullshit, what they did on election day is stay away from the polls.
    
    That, more than anything, is why Daley got elected.
    
    Most folks don't bother, and the machine is good at getting out loyalist voters to get the majority of the 30% of people who do vote.
    
    Daley got 70% in 2007 of the 30% who bothered to vote.
    
    In France the turnout in their last presidential election was 84%, say what you want, they get off their asses and vote. And in Australia voter turnout is way over 90%. Voting is mandatory in Australia.
    
    But here in this great democracy, this bastion of freedom and corrupt political leaders, we get 30%-35% to actually vote.
    
    Mostly we are lazy assholes more than willing to give a bullshit opinion to anyone who will listen but much less willing to go out to exercise the right that so many bled and died to preserve.
    
    And we even have early voting to make it so convenient. Doesn't help much. Makes one wonder if all those sacrifices by so many brave young men was really worth it.
    
    2/16/2009 07:54:00 PM"
    
    
    Not voting is like going into a restaurant, ordering a salad and accepting a plate of raw entrails instead.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[New blood]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[It took new blood in the last city election to get this TIF transparency moving? Why did it take so long?
     Time for a few more new aldermen so we see actual change. 
    
    Daley Family corruption has gone for too long of time. time for a new mayor.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Not The King Of Coconutty......]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Fellatians. Like his bald sandwich Tony of the West suburbs & Pat'e "It'll Bring In The Niggers" Philip or Gatorade "Let's Make Dose Gayng Bayngahs Into Legitimit Politiks" Bradley.
        
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      <![CDATA[Michael - The $425k/unit price has been out there as the overall price per unit. I don't think anyone has been saying that's how much per unit is being paid for by the TIF. Rather, the point is that TIF is contributing to a development that is so overpriced overall.
    
    And yeah everything else you're saying about Shiller is right as far as I've heard!
        
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      <![CDATA[Nice job.  We're getting there.
    
    Party is over Daley.
        
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      <![CDATA[Also-
    
    Ald. Shiller is kinda lying (a little bit.)
    
    On her webpage she has an interesting page called "Facts about Wilson Yard"
    
    Fact #1 is: Target is coming.
    
    If you click you'll find a link to a Crain's article, dated June 6th, 2008, that says only that Target has 'confirmed negotiations' to open a location in Wilson Yard.
    
    Check it out for yourself:
    http://www.aldermanshiller.com/content/view/450/169/
    
    Aha - the Crain's article also states the 20% limit on TIF subsidies.
    
    So, not only is she lying, and breaking the law.  She's publishing links to this on her own webpage?
    
    The nerve.
        
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      <![CDATA[EYE - good call, but I think your #'s are only slightly off.  According to FixWilsonYard.org it's $52M being paid to Peter Holsten.
    
    Also, on the Ald. Shiller's website it says the development will have 178 units.  
    
    That makes it $292,134.82 / unit.  Not $425.  
    
    Still an incredible amount of money to be paying per unit.  
    
    I think the corruption is in the fact that the Wilson Yard TIF is subsidizing 34% of the entire cost of construction.  I've heard there's a rule that limits subsidies to 20% of total costs, thus making this development technically illegal.
    
    Can anyone support me on this point?
    
    Yeah well....take a look at the 46th ward corruption. 50 mil in TIF money to build low income housing at the tune of 425k a piece. 425k a piece folks!!!!
        
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    <author><![CDATA[broke city?]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[another gem from the comments section of:
    
    
    http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/
    
    
    "SCC,
    
    This may have been covered before but, maybe not in this manner. 
    
    I think this would make a good post and hopefully a decent reporter shoves this in daley's face during our budget crunch. 
    
    As we all know, and appreciate, GPS units have been installed in many of the city's vehicles. 
    
    If I were to guess, a low number would be 3000 vehicles and if I were to estimate the cost, with a slight bit of knowledge from conversations with motor maintenance, the cost for a complete install per vehicle is $2500.00. 
    
    So that would be a fleet cost of approx. $55,000.00. 
    
    Keep these figures in the back of your head. 
    
    As for the GPS units, we are required to pay a $48.00 monthly service charge for the use of the Verizon network and a $35.00 a month charge for the GPS feature. 
    
    The city currently pays for every pdt in service or not the same $48.00 a month fee to use the verizon network, (Huberman's great gift to the department), so, one would ask we can't we do GPS by using the PDTS? 
    
    GPS systems are fully integratible to our pcs as they run windows xp in the background. 
    
    So, I ask why does the city not streamline all of this into our pdt's? 
    
    The city could save the additional vehicle cost of outfitting the squad cars with all those antennas and equip every vehicle with a pdt and than not pay that same vendor twice for the same data service. 
    
    3000 vehicles times $48.00 per vehicle comes out to $144,000.00 a month, now times that by 12 for months in a year and the police department spends $1,728,00.00 a year on a service we already have in the vehicles... 
    
    Now apply that to all departments in the city: revenue, oemc vehicles and watch the money flow out. 
    
    So GPS has been deployed for the last two years and we have paid over $3,000,000.00 what a deal!!!
    
    
    Captain Obvious out
    
    2/15/2009 06:16:00 PM"
    
    
    Kate, Ben & Mick, where are you?
        
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      <![CDATA[Ooh Frank, I love your tits!
        
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      <![CDATA[Yeah well....take a look at the 46th ward corruption.  50 mil in TIF money to build low income housing at the tune of 425k a piece.  425k a piece folks!!!!
        
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      <![CDATA[Because we are talking about tits, here's mine:
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      <![CDATA[Frank,  we took you in because your mother could work Madison street and take care of you at the same time.  She did not know who your father was because her clients all rode bareback.
        
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      <![CDATA[Daryl"oreo" Mitchell,
    
      At least I knew who my father was...
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Fed up with da bulls###]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[If our founding fathers were around to see these TIFs they would send Daley to go live  with the queen of england. daley and the queen would get along since they're both bitch tyrants
        
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      <![CDATA[Any ordinance introduced into City Council not by the Mayor and not a zoning change is big news.
        
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          Posted by Hugh]]>
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      <![CDATA[You should be the expert on deformed sperm, blame your father for putting one in your mom as the reason you are so short.
        
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      <![CDATA[Oreo Daryl Mitchell,
    
    Pussy? Like posting under a name like Orion all the time?
     
     You are a daley kool aid drinker.
        
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          Posted by FC]]>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:23:48 -0600</pubDate> 
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: Transparency on TIFs]]></title>
    
    
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    <author><![CDATA[re oreo]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[not at all, oreo.
    
    your posts are like deformed sperm cells.
    
    they get flushed like dog shit gets washed away when it rains.
        
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          Posted by re oreo]]>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:35:04 -0600</pubDate> 
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: Transparency on TIFs]]></title>
    
    
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    <author><![CDATA[Orion]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Did I hurt little prick, I mean Mick's feelings ?
    
    He had to run like a pussy to Kate to have the post deleted ?
        
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          Posted by Orion]]>
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    <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:20:10 -0600</pubDate> 
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