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      <![CDATA[This is really very nice pair and one of the best scene in the history of cinema.However the comments also are very nice.
    Thanks all of you
    <a href="http://www.widecircles.info"rel="dofollow">widecircles</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[Thanks for making this fascinating sequence available.
    
    I've noticed that several of the links to your long reviews crash whenever I try to open them (specifically I'm Not There, Pedro Costa and India Matri Bhumi). It's very frustrating; can anything be done to fix these links?
        
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      <![CDATA[Sorry, but I don't know the answer to that. My impression is that it isn't, but I could be wrong.
        
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      <![CDATA[Beautiful sequence.   Thank you, Jonothan.   I'm sorry to take the conversation away fron Don Quixote to The Other Side of the Wind, but a friend of mine is working with Oja Kodar's nephew editing the work print of this later film in Los Angeles and I was wondering if the negative for this film is in the Munich archive.
        
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      <![CDATA[Hi, Reader--sorry for the delayed response. The films I'm thinking of that match the names are as follows: Keaton--Sherlock, Jr.; Dante--Gremlins; Allen--Purple Rose of Cairo (my favorite Allen, I suppose); Tomatore--Cinema Paradiso; Chionglo--Lagarista (The Film Biker, 2000) Mario O'Hara--Babae sa Bubungang Lata (Woman on a Tin Roof, 1998).
    
    Approve the title to the post; it's a provocative statement and meant as such by both Jonathan and Agamben. Just funny that so many people rose to the bait.
        
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      <![CDATA[To the gentleman who found the absence of reverse shots to the screen wrong, I agree with Jonathan, its a bold move and a great structuring principle for this sequence, I think. If we had the sound it would either make the absence of reverse shots less striking or MORE striking. When I think of how it could be more striking than it already is I think of the Chinese Theatre sequence in LADY FROM SHANGHAI. Thanks Jonathan for the chance to see it.
        
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      <![CDATA[To RayG: Sorry, but I know nothing whatsoever about this footage. This is the first I've heard about it. But considering how much and how often Hitchcock could make the films he wanted to, unlike Welles, I don't think the comparison you're suggesting is very apt.
        
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      <![CDATA[I'll been meaning to read your book, and will make that a priority. I have another question and I hope it's not too far off topic. What do you make, assuming you have seen some of it, of Hitchock's  Kaleidoscope footage. I've seen pieces in a documentary on him, and supposedly about an hour of silent footage exists but I've found little written about it. Would you consider it a similar situation to many unreleased and unfinished Welles films and do you feel it could be an important addition to Hitchcock's filmography? It just seems so odd to me that so little importance is placed on these fragments from such important directors.
        
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      <![CDATA[THIS SCENE IS BETTER THAN ALL OF FRANCOS EDIT. AFTER YEARS OF WAITING I WAS THRILLED TO FINALLY SEE THIS.WHILE WELLES (LIKE GODARD)IS ONE OF THE MASTERS OF AUDIO CINEMA SEEING A PURELY VISUAL PRESENTATION IS AMAZINGLY POWERFUL.THANK YOU JONATHAN.
        
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      <![CDATA[To RayG: Most of your questions are answered in my book.
        
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      <![CDATA[Jonathan, I think the main reason some people are under the mistaken belief that "The Most Beautiful Six Minutes . . ." is your own declaration and not Agamben's is just because of the formatting of the text on this page.  The title 'The Most Beautiful Six Minutes . . .' (unquoted) is positioned just a millimeter below the clip image, much closer to it than to Agamben's text; hence, it appears to be your title for the clip, not Agamben's title for his text.  Just thought I'd point that out.
        
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      <![CDATA[Jonathan,
    
    Do you see any likelyhood in a new cut of Don Quixote being attempted after this legal action? Is it possible, or would numerous shorts only emerge, but no single coherent whole?
    Also, The Merchant of Venice footage featured in One Man Band was amazing. How much of that is known to currently exist, and how much did Welles actually shoot?
        
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      <![CDATA[To Hendrik: I don't know specifically why Bonanni decided several years ago to air this sequence on Italian TV, though I'm pretty sure it was Ciro Giorgini, who works for RAI, who arranged for the screening. And the only update I can offer is that he and Oja Kodar were in a legal dispute for years over the Welles footage he was holding--a dispute that was finally settled in her favor a few months ago. This means that the footage, once it's been inventoried, will eventually wind up at the either the Munich film Archives or the Filmoteca Espanola.
    
    As far as I know, most or all of the remaining McCormack footage apart from this sequence was held by both Bonanni and the Filmoteca Espanola (the latter in Barcelona, not Madrid--as I discovered to my regret when I went to Madrid to do research on "Quixote" a few years back). Most of what Madrid has is the wreckage left by Jesus Franco, most of this consisting of Welles' hack documentary miniseries made for Italian TV in the 70s, "Orson Welles in the Land of Don Quixote" (not part of the film "Don Quixote" at all, though appropriated by Franco as if it were).
    
    As of last August, when I visited Oja in Croatia, she still hadn't seen the footage and was speculating on whether it might include some things apart from Quixote footage, such as the missing material from "The Merchant of Venice".
        
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      <![CDATA[Does anyone know if that's a preexisting film being slashed, or something Welles created for the movie?  I'm intrigued by this image of noble horsemen arriving on the scene to cut Jesus down from the cross.
        
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      <![CDATA[This is like finding a long lost treasure!!! The better you know the story behind this silent scene, the more beautiful you will find it - - Promise!
    
    I have been desperately waiting to see this sequence, having spent the last 18 months writing my graduation thesis in comparative literature basically on failed Don-Quixote-Adaptations (with a historiographic part about Lauritzen, Pabst, Kozintsev, Rim and Arag&Atilde;&sup3;n), in the main part about Welles' attempt to get his version done. (Handed this paper in, no response yet)
    
    The cinema scene has a certain cult status since it was not included in the you-know-which-version, was deemed missing for many years and has NEVER been shown to a world wide audience.
    
    Thank you, Jonathan Rosenbaum, for this unprecedented and truly heroic work! From my point of view, you did the work Cervantes' narrator does: Find the fragment in some remote place, give it the right form, show it to the public.... I can't wait to read more about this in your book! How come Mauro Bonanni finally distibuted this at the Italian TV? Does he stil hold the original cut scene? Is all the rest still in Madrid, or can we hope to see Orson and Patty on the hotel veranda or in the carriage one day?
    
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      <![CDATA[What the hell is SO great about the that?  nothing special if you ask me.
        
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      <![CDATA[an interesting little scene, definitely makes me wonder what the completed sequence would have been like. but if you want to see the "six most beautiful minutes in the history of cinema," i recommend any six minutes from carl th. dreyer's "the passion of joan of arc."
        
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      <![CDATA[Wonderful scene; it's a pity Welles never finished production.
    
    I do say, Sir Rosenbaum, your title is far from deserved.  No six minutes of cinema trumps any other, given such a lack of context and creative authority.  Please re-title.
        
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      <![CDATA[Irrespective of your feelings about the excerpt, I can't help feeling it's a great thing to have it so widely watched and discussed after all this time.
        
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      <![CDATA[Re: Jerry. You're the one who used the word "Chaplin-esque." In my opinion, that's a superlative.
        
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      <![CDATA[The word is crucifixion. Yes.
        
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      <![CDATA[Was it my imagination, or was there a man on a cross on the screen?  Was Quixote slashing away at a cricifixion scene?
        
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: "The Most Beautiful Six Minutes in the History of Cinema"]]></title>
    
    
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      <![CDATA[Your quarrel is with Giorgio Agamben, not with me. Are you suggesting that I should have censored the title to his beautiful piece? That title is placed in quotation marks at the head of this post, emphasizing that it was his title. But maybe you just didn't bother to read the post closely enough.
        
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: "The Most Beautiful Six Minutes in the History of Cinema"]]></title>
    
    
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      <![CDATA[Very interesting piece of film.  Lovely stuff.  However, I think you really do it a disservice by labelling it with the "Most Beautiful" superlative.   Let's be real.  It isn't the MOST beautiful 6 minutes of cinema history.  It just isn't.  For most of it, it is just people sitting in a movie theater while a fat guy does Chaplin-esque gags with a stick candy and fake tears.  I don't mean to be critical of it and probably would have nothing but positive things to say about it if you hadn't thrown such a silly title on the clip.  How about "A really fascinating 6 minutes of cinema"?   May not have as many haters in the comment section.  just a thought.
        
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      <![CDATA[Well, there's 9 minutes of my life I'll never get back...
        
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