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      <![CDATA[So, you have no thoughts to share?
        
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      <![CDATA[So, what might the reasons be, for this apparent contradiction between the words, of many, and the subsequent actions, or inactions, of so few or so many?
    
    What, exactly, are the beliefs held by those who continue to elect/reelect the very people whose activities are so objected to?
    
    What, exactly, are the reasons for, presumably, so many to act, on every election day, so contrary to their own self-interests?
    
    As in, what are so many citizens thinking, if, indeed, they are thinking?
    
    What do you think?
        
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      <![CDATA[Sure, a web blog can be anything anyone wants. From 1955 onwards, people have been voting for the Daley machine. Those same people later complain about the machine candidates' job performances, but still vote for them.
        
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      <![CDATA[I was hoping for a more thoughtful elaboration, not necessarily of book length, but a bit more detailed than a few words.
    
    Perhaps something containing your thoughts on the natures of the various electorate groupings of those of voting age, circa 1955, and the life experiences each grouping may have had that affected their vulnerability to being 'brainwashed', influenced, manipulated, pandered to, persuaded, convinced and otherwise successfully encouraged not to think for themselves.
    
    Perhaps along the lines of which groups of voters, at that time, consisted primarily of individuals who had experienced, first hand, the realities of WW II, either as combatants, or as civilians, and those individuals whose experiences, concerning WW II, did not include first hand experiences, both those who lost family, friends and associates and those who did not.
    
    Also, those citizens who were coming of age at that time, ie., those born just prior to the beginnings of WW II, being born during the Great Depression years of the 1930's, yet not having been old enough to either vote or serve during the war years.
    
    Further, those who had lived the bulk of their lives here, in Cook County and the City of Chicago, and those who migrated here, whether during the Great Depression or during and after WW II.
    
    To understand the effects and effectivenesses of politically targeted propagandas, one must understand the natures and viewpoints of those voters being targeted.
    
    To understand the how's and who's and what's and where's and why's of politically motivated 'brain washing', one must begin by understanding the citizen/voters these propaganda techniques are being employed against.
    
    While a web blog's comment board may not seem like the likely vehicle for expressing opinions and observations of this sort, it can be a means of stimulating interest and curiosity in same, not merely a place to exchange, as many do, pejoratives, insults, rantings and blatant displays of ignorance.
    
    Can't it?
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Hughmer Me]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Hugh, 
    why do and others always have to throw trash at Fritchey. HE has done a great job as State Rep and will do same as Committeeman.  For the first time, the people in the 32nd have a committeeman who will work with all people not just party hacks. JOhn's vote total shows just how well he'll do anyway.
        
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      <![CDATA[Mayor Ritchard J. Daley.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[re 1955]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Not to belabor the point, but, could you be a bit more specific in your analysis on the who, what, where and how of "People became brainwashed in politics."?
    
    Without revealing anything which might be construed as being a 'threat to national security'?
        
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      <![CDATA[People became brainwashed in politics.
        
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      <![CDATA[And the significance of the year 1955 is???
        
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      <![CDATA[Authentic Americans died out in 1955.
        
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      <![CDATA[The Electorate.
    
    Like the weather, always changing, yet ever the same.
    
    And always the environment in which we experience the miracle of life.
    
    Politicians are like farmers, albeit managing the opinions of the electorate, like so many plants in their own fields, reaping the rewards of power and wealth when they bring in their harvests.
    
    The primary fear of these political farmers is the unpredictability of those who they consider to be 'pests', ie., those living creatures independent and immune to the ways of the cultivators of 'public opinion'.
    
    Those would be the individuals whose natures are the stuff that created our country, some few centuries ago, ie., Authentic Americans.
    
    Are there enough Authentic Americans left?
        
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      <![CDATA[I am very cloudly today.
        
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      <![CDATA[Perseverance, grasshopper, perseverance.
    
    And, it's not other parties, per se, it's simple ballot position, with the incumbent's name position as the primary reference factor.
    
    If this, then that.
    
    With the goal being to disallow the name designated as the incumbent from getting your vote.
    
    In contests where there is no incumbent, there will reliably be a slated/touted party hack, who can be considered as being the same as the incumbent.
    
    The State's Attorney's race, in the Democratic Primary, was the exception to the rule, with so many unworthy candidates meeting the criteria for not being elected.
    
    This contest also came close to the reality of what the voters will be faced with, albeit heavily overloaded with unworthy candidates, should our political processes evolve into truly open and competitive democracy.
    
    Thus, this specific contest is a good example of the challenge the voters face, should they choose to honestly participate in their Democracy, in determining which candidate is, in fact, the best candidate for the public office they are seeking.
    
    It's been a long, generational process, this brain washing and programming of the electorate, and it will take some time to clear the minds and hearts of this conditioning.
    
    First, clear your own mind and vision, then help others to do so.
    
    The only alternative is to remain one of the blind, leading the blind to wherever the one-eyed creatures want them to be led.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[fedup dem]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I must learn how to vote for other parties too.
        
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      <![CDATA[My vote incumbents out lost big time, because most incumbents won!
        
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      <![CDATA[Rich Remus could put Sheriff Michael Sheehan, Skinny Sheehan, Judge Ryan and the entire Alvarez campaign staff in jail.
        
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      <![CDATA["Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity."
    --W.B. Yeats
        
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      <![CDATA[Before the body politic can heal, it first must be cleansed of the infections causing the diseased condition.
    
    As in the body biological, the body politic has the inherent means to eliminate said infectious organisms.
    
    The body biological has white blood cells.
    
    The body politic has their Right to Vote.
    
    As the white blood cells recognize, and eliminate those disease causing organisms, wherever they may be found within the body, so do the citizens have the opportunity to recognize, identify and eliminate those infectious organisms, within the body politic, commonly known as corrupted Incumbent office holders.
    
    HAVE NO DOUBT, VOTE INCUMBENTS OUT
        
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      <![CDATA[The elementary power of the masses, deftly managed and employed, the state also can utilize: in the ambitious hands of one or of several who have been artificially brought together for selfish aims, the state itself, with the support of the masses, reduced to the minimum status of a mere machine, can impose its whims on the better part of the real people: the common interest remains seriously, and for a long time, injured by this process, and the injury is very often hard to heal.
        
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      <![CDATA[Add to the list of losers the residents of most of the 40 wards that did not have a contested race for Democratic Ward Committeeman.  Tops among those losers have to be the voters of the 49th Ward on the Far North Side.  
    
    There under the plague of Committeeman Dave Fagus (working in tandem with that noted hypocrite and compulsive liar, Ald. Joe Moore), we saw a new low Tuesday with the invisible ink ballot scandal.  Fagus and Moore are part of a political cancer that has spread across the north lakefront communities and into the adjacent suburbs.  Other culprits in this cabal of hypocrisy include that notorious lobbyist/County Comm. Larry Suffredin and Cong. Jan Schakowsky and her felon husband Bob Creamer.  
    
    I pray for the day that these scoundrels and their cohorts are brought to justice and/or finally are taken down by the will of enlightened voters, and that this day comes soon.
        
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      <![CDATA[I don't know the Duffs
    
    No mob guys at McPier
    
    No affairs
    
    Jerry Joyce ain't Irish mafia
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Bad Luck Jesse Jr loser Jackson]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Jesse Jackson Jr is a black cat
    He lost all his races except but his selfish wife
    LOSERS:
    Larry the lobbyist Suffredin
    Kenny Johnson WILL BURNS ROCKS
    Maryanne Spyropolous with the global warming money she gave Jesse James--he should give it back
    Diane Jones lost big
    Dean Maragos lost big
    Judges
    State Reps
    Water Recs
    States Attorney
    Loser Jesse Jackson the black cat
        
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      <![CDATA[Since you seem to be 'well informed', maybe you can refresh our memories on the answers to the following questions:
    
    
    
    "Conviction of governor Ryan, staff and friends...." 
    
    How many individuals were indicted, prosecuted, were found or pled guilty, and were:
    
    1. sentenced to a term of imprisonment
    
    and/or
    
    2. assessed fines 
    
    and/or
    
    3. required to pay restitution
    
    Of those sentenced to a term of imprisonment, how long a term for each, and, at what cost to the taxpayers?
    
    Of those assessed fines, to whom were these fines to be paid? And how much?
    
    Of those required to pay restitution, to whom was restitution paid? And how much?
    
    Besides Ryan, were there any individuals of political significance indicted, convicted, fined and/or sentenced?
    
    Would you deem Ryan to be a person of political significance at the time of his indictment?
    
    How long did it take the 'feds' to interfere with the criminal activities relevant to these cases? As in, how long did these criminal activities continue to be engaged in, from their beginning to their presumed ending?  
    
    
    
    
    "...ongoing investigation of governor Blagojevich, indictments of his fundraisers..."
    
    Is it your belief that the federal authorities have a better understanding of the workings of our local political criminal enterprises than our own prosecutorial 'representatives' of the people? As in our County State's Attorneys and our State Attorney General?
    
    Is it your belief that the federal government's department of justice  is, essentially, an apolitical organization? Substantially free from political influences and/or agendas? And capable of actual honesty?
    
    
    
    
    "...around a hundred Hired Truck convictions..." 
    
    How many individuals, specifically, were indicted, prosecuted, were found or pled guilty, and were:
    
    1. sentenced to a term of imprisonment
    
    and/or
    
    2. assessed fines 
    
    and/or
    
    3. required to pay restitution
    
    Of those sentenced to a term of imprisonment, how long a term for each, and, at what cost to the taxpayers?
    
    Of those assessed fines, to whom were these fines to be paid? And how much?
    
    Of those required to pay restitution, to whom was restitution paid? And how much?
    
    Is it your belief that there are no longer any activities being engaged in that are similar, or the same, as those criminal activities engaged in by the individuals involved in the aforementioned 'Hired Truck Scandal'?
    
     
    
    
    "...the Duff minority contract fraud convictions..." 
    
    How many individuals, specifically, were indicted, prosecuted, were found or pled guilty, and were:
    
    1. sentenced to a term of imprisonment
    
    and/or
    
    2. assessed fines 
    
    and/or
    
    3. required to pay restitution
    
    Of those sentenced to a term of imprisonment, how long a term for each, and, at what cost to the taxpayers?
    
    Of those assessed fines, to whom were these fines to be paid? And how much?
    
    Of those required to pay restitution, to whom was restitution paid? And how much?
    
    Is it your belief that there are no longer any individuals currently engaged in the criminal activities involved in the aforementioned 'Minority Contact Frauds'?
    
    
    
    
    "...the Sorich patronage conviction..." 
    
    How many individuals, specifically, were indicted, prosecuted, were found or pled guilty, and were:
    
    1. sentenced to a term of imprisonment
    
    and/or
    
    2. assessed fines 
    
    and/or
    
    3. required to pay restitution
    
    Of those sentenced to a term of imprisonment, how long a term for each, and, at what cost to the taxpayers?
    
    Of those assessed fines, to whom were these fines to be paid? And how much?
    
    Of those required to pay restitution, to whom was restitution paid? And how much?
    
    Is it your belief that there are no longer any individuals engaged in the criminal activities Sorich has been convicted of engaging in?
    
    Is it your belief that Sorich acted on his own initiative?
    
    Is it your belief that the conviction and sentencing of Sorich has resulted in the ending of the type of activities for which he was investigated, indicted, prosecuted, and convicted?
    
    Do you have knowledge of the amount of time Sorich engaged in these criminal activities?
    
    Do you have knowledge of the unnecessary costs imposed upon the taxpayers, as a result of said activities?
    
    Do you have knowledge of any other specific individuals engaging in activities similar to, or the same as, those Sorich was convicted of engaging in?
    
    Is it your belief that, were one to have said knowledge, one would be wasting one's time in bringing said knowledge to the attention of the County's State's Attorney's office?
    
    
    
    
    "....Al Sanchez and other HDO indictments pending..." 
    
    Is it your belief that those 'alleged' criminal activities, engaged in by the above named, and unnamed, individuals are no longer being engaged in by any individuals not currently under indictment or under 'pending indictment'?
    
    
    
    
    "....resulting personnel shakeups in most City departments..." 
    
    Is it your belief that these supposed 'personnel shakeups' have been intended to, and have resulted in, an ending to the criminal activities,  which have been engaged in, in the recent 'past'?
    
    
    
    "...the Vrdolyak and Levine indictments pending..." 
    
    Is it your belief that the activities 'allegedly' having been engaged in by Vrdolyak and Levine are not currently being engaged in by any other individuals, have not ever been engaged in by any other individuals in the past and, further, are, specifically, the only activities ever engaged in by the aforementioned Vrdolyak and Levine?
    
    
    
    
    "....the Maltese/Cicero convictions..." 
    
    How many individuals, specifically, were indicted, prosecuted, were found or pled guilty, and were:
    
    1. sentenced to a term of imprisonment
    
    and/or
    
    2. assessed fines 
    
    and/or
    
    3. required to pay restitution
    
    Of those sentenced to a term of imprisonment, how long a term for each, and, at what cost to the taxpayers?
    
    Of those assessed fines, to whom were these fines to be paid? And how much?
    
    Of those required to pay restitution, to whom was restitution paid? And how much?
    
    Is it your belief that there are no longer any individuals engaged in similar activities in the suburb of Cicero? Or activities having the same, or more harmful, effects upon the citizen/taxpayers of Cicero?
    
    
    
    
    "....5 top level mobsters including Joey the Clown convicted..." 
    
    How many individuals, specifically, were indicted, prosecuted, were found or pled guilty, and were:
    
    1. sentenced to a term of imprisonment
    
    and/or
    
    2. assessed fines 
    
    and/or
    
    3. required to pay restitution
    
    Of those sentenced to a term of imprisonment, how long a term for each, and, at what cost to the taxpayers?
    
    Of those assessed fines, to whom were these fines to be paid? And how much?
    
    Of those required to pay restitution, to whom was restitution paid? And how much?
    
    Is it your belief that, during the long period of time, between the occurrence of the activities and events that the aforementioned individuals were convicted of engaging in and the present, there were any significant efforts being made, by authorities, be they State or Federal, to investigate, indict and prosecute the many less egregious activities which were the source motivations of the most egregious activities?
    
    And, is it your belief that the State Authorities are incapable of engaging in any substantial efforts concerning the investigation, indictment and prosecution of public corruptions, of all kinds, as a given fact of life? And, thus, there is no need for them to bother attempting to do so?
    
    
    
    
    "...with enough time left over to convict Sun-Times officers Black and Radley...." 
    
    How many individuals, specifically, were indicted, prosecuted, were found or pled guilty, and were:
    
    1. sentenced to a term of imprisonment
    
    and/or
    
    2. assessed fines 
    
    and/or
    
    3. required to pay restitution
    
    Of those sentenced to a term of imprisonment, how long a term for each, and, at what cost to the taxpayers?
    
    Of those assessed fines, to whom were these fines to be paid? And how much?
    
    Of those required to pay restitution, to whom was restitution paid? And how much?
    
    Who, precisely, were the victims of the criminal activities Black and Radley were convicted of engaging in? And what, specifically, was the harm imposed upon them?
    
    
    
    
    "...and to go to Washington and convict Scooter Libby." 
    
    How many individuals, specifically, were indicted, prosecuted, were found or pled guilty, and were:
    
    1. sentenced to a term of imprisonment
    
    and/or
    
    2. assessed fines 
    
    and/or
    
    3. required to pay restitution
    
    Of those sentenced to a term of imprisonment, how long a term for each, and, at what cost to the taxpayers?
    
    Of those assessed fines, to whom were these fines to be paid? And how much?
    
    Of those required to pay restitution, to whom was restitution paid? And how much?
    
    Oh yeah, I remember.
    
    Scooter got himself a Bush Pardoning.
    
    And a fine amounting to pocket change to him.
    
    And a cushy new job, courtesy of the Bush administration, said administration being, for the present, in control of the US Justice Department you hold in such high esteem.
    
    
    So, Joe, waddaya know?
        
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      <![CDATA[My name is Carey Capperelli.
    I am a loser.
    My dad wanted me to be state rep or commissioner but Silvestri and McAullife spanked my old mean dad.
    
    I have a no bid political contract at the MWRD.  I should not have it.
    Let me race my car
    Vrooom
    Vroom
    
    My dad knew Don Stephens and helped with the Casino
    
    OMNI
        
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      <![CDATA[I am sorry I gave money to Terry O'Brien and violated the contract.
    I got a good deal, I ran against Patty Young than got a job.
    The oral law test is a real joke.
    
    The State's Attorney should look into Obrien and O'Connor--they will not, they will not be political and good.
        
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          Posted by Brendan O'Connor]]>
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