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      <title>Comments On: Community Policing
    
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    <author><![CDATA[Little Boy Blue]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[If you want police to address your problem(s) then do not make a complaint anonymously. It helps the officers involved if they actually have someone to talk to. But if you do wish to remain anonymous, fine. But then don't complain when your issue isn't resolved. And if you file a complaint against an officer then be prepared to sign an affidavid. Why it took so long for the city to fall in line with the law is beyond me. Even King Richard Daley attempt to go around it by saying that the city would not follow the law because he thought the average citizen would be afraid of retaliation was absurd.
    
    Police officers are entitled to the same safety measures as the common citizen as far as the law is concerned. Making a complaint against an officer, then refusing to sign the affidavid AND then crying when the complaint is non-sustained is stupid.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Little Boy Blue]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[My limited experience when I approached the police for help taught me to expect no service or protection at all.
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    What type of service were you looking for? To make a generalized comment like that smacks of irresponsibility. The police are here to "serve and protect" but that is in the function as police; patrol neighborhoods, enforce the laws, and what ever else their training has taught them. Not to answer anonomous calls for noise (tell your neighbor yourself to turn their radio down) or domestics between a mother and her 12 year old son (son does not want to go to school) so now the police have to act as parents when the real parents can't or most likely won't take responsibility. And speaking of responsibility, maybe if the citizens of this fine city actually took responsibility for their actions maybe the police would be easier to talk to.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Pete]]></author>
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      <![CDATA["...GPS in squad cars..." 
    
    Wouldn't one think that police officers on patrol would welcome their locations being known to their fellow officers? 
    
    Isn't this a good thing for those officers who work in areas of high risk to their safety? 
    
    Why wouldn't an officer on patrol want his/her whereabouts known to those who they would be looking to for assistance? 
    
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    GPS in police cars are good. It will allow the dispatcher to see who is nearest to a call and assign that job so police response will be that much quicker. But don't give me this officer safety bull. If the department was doing it for officer safety they would have bought radios with GPS in them. The radios are with the officer at all times. Having the GPS in the cars only gives the dispatcher the location of the car, NOT the officer. When an officer answers a call they leave the car parked near the location. Now what if the officer gets involved in a foot chase? I think you can figure the rest out.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Joe Lake]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Website-City of Chicago
    Office of Professional Standards 
    http://www.opschicago.org
    
    Joe Lake, Bucktown
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Orion]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Tell people to stop committing crime and you won't have to worry about cops you losers!
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:54:26 -0500</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[The Attitude]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[The police can't do anything right.  Maybe they should disband the police department and let know it all citizens protect themselves.  Save us a fortune in stupid court judgments which WE pay for !
    Is someone in the Corporation Counsel's office getting kickbacks from Loevy & Lovey?
    Hello, Pat Fitzgerald!
        
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          Posted by The Attitude]]>
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    <pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:37:55 -0500</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[Joe Lake]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[TALES FROM THE TRENCHES: 
    
    Bucktown Block Club 16
    What Will It Take? CFW 
    http://groups.msn.com/BucktownBlockClub16/whatwillittakecfw.msnw 
    
    In an 'open' meeting, I was asked to step out in the lobby after the meeting to discuss the 'Oakley Stalker'. The discussion did not go well.
    
    Joe Lake, Bucktown Resident
        
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    <author><![CDATA[re orion]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I appreciate the service orion is rendering the public, as his comments ALWAYS stimulate the appropriate reaction from same.
    
    If only mayor mumbles would be so frank and forthcoming in expressing the attitudes of orion, which are the common ones shared by many members of the machine.
    
    Thanks, orion, you are a proud example of your peer group.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[second city cop]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Stop having sergeants investigate CR investigations.  
    
    I am going to give everyone a little lesson on how CR number investigations are completed.  I know many know the process well however many do not know.
    
    First, when a citizen makes a complaint, per Chicago Police Department General Order 93-03, a supervising officer of the rank of sergeant or above MUST notify OPS within 1 hour to generate the complaint.  The ranking officer must type up a &acirc;&#128;&#156;To/From&acirc;&#128;&#157; Report which is then faxed to OPS.  It should be also stated that if a citizen makes a complaint to a patrolmen, he or she must immediately notify their direct supervisor so the sergeant can make the complaint.  No matter how silly the complaint may seem, according to G.O. 93-03 a call to OPS must be made and they will decide if a CR number is issued.   
     
    OPS will then decide if they will investigate the complaint.  For the most part OPS will ONLY investigate brutality complaints.  Some have estimated ONLY 5 to 10% of complaints made are for brutality.  The rest will be sent to the Internal Affairs Division were they will decide if they will investigate the complaint or, if the officer&acirc;&#128;&#153;s district or unit will investigate it.  
    
    Now for the breakdown.  Only about 10 to 15% of the remaining complaints will be investigated by IAD.  These are considered more serious complaints such as the ones we read about in the paper, complaints involving stolen money and complaints made against officers while they were &acirc;&#128;&#156;off-duty&acirc;&#128;&#157; or out of town.  
    
    So what does this mean? Approximately 70% to 85% of ALL CR numbers are investigated by the district/unit sergeant.  (If a complaint is on a sergeant, a lieutenant will investigate.  If the CR is on a lieutenant, a captain will investigate. If a Captain is the subject of an investigation, ONLY IAD can investigate the CR number)
    
    To say the least, these sergeants have to work with the police officers they investigate.  They hope the officers will protect their backs when they are on the street.  It only makes sense that the sergeants will do everything they can to "not-sustain" the CR numbers they investigate. Do you really think a sergeant will give a guy he works with a 30 day suspension with no pay?   Hell NO!!  Neither would I if I wanted my back protected!
     
    
    And now you know the &acirc;&#128;&#156;REST OF THE STORY&acirc;&#128;&#157;.
        
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    <pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:27:51 -0500</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[Orion]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[me gullable too 4 supportin daley!
    *wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh*
        
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          Posted by Orion]]>
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    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:58:06 -0500</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[JP the idiot]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[JP Paulus is a real fucking idiot who should shut the fuck up.
        
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    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:03:05 -0500</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[maybe, then again....maybe not]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[HAVE NO DOUBT, VOTE INCUMBENTS OUT
    
    Here is how to get it done:
    
    
    1) REGISTER TO VOTE
    
    
    2) Make a list of every INCUMBENT, (leaving those few incumbents who you are CERTAIN deserve to be reelected off of your list)
    
    
    3) BRING this list with you when you go to vote
    
    
    4) DO NOT vote for ANYONE on your list
    
    
    5) If the INCUMBENT has only one CHALLENGER, vote for that CHALLENGER, no matter who it may be
    
    
    6) If the INCUMBENT has 2 or more challengers, then:
    
    If the INCUMBENT'S name is listed 1st, then vote for the CHALLENGER who is LISTED LAST
    
    or
    
    If the INCUMBENT'S name is NOT LISTED FIRST, then vote for the CHALLENGER who IS LISTED FIRST
    
    (This will concentrate the most votes for a SINGLE CHALLENGER, thus providing the greatest possibility of the incumbent losing
    
    
    7) whenever you have the choice to RETAIN or NOT RETAIN an elected official, vote to NOT RETAIN
    
    
    8) Vote for whomever you choose, for whatever your reasons, it's your vote and you can cast it for whomever you please, but, remember, the INCUMBENTS are the people who have been, are, and will continue to be, the one's responsible for all of our current troubles
    
    
    Cast your votes with the sole purpose in mind of ousting practically all those currently holding, and abusing, the power and authority they've been entrusted with.
    
    This strategy, if applied, will guarantee that the incumbents will lose, every time.
    
    Primaries are the perfect opportunity for honest individuals, of either major party, to challenge the corrupt, old-school hacks infesting their parties. 
    
    Whether one considers oneself essentially a 'liberal', 'conservative', a Democrat or Republican, or a mixture of both, one must acknowledge that the entrenched members of both parties have been, and currently are, responsible for fucking up the lives of the 'common citizens'.
    
    Independent-minded Democrats AND Republicans should flood their respective primaries with challengers, vote according to the HAVE NO DOUBT, VOTE INCUMBENTS OUT protocols, which will replace each party's respective incumbent hacks with anyone BUT the incumbent hack.
    
    In the general election, both Democrats and Republicans can have the opportunity to elect a candidate who is not a hack, not a part of the old-school hack machine, and may well be a person more authentically committed to the ideals of true democracy.
    
    Those citizens who are sick and tired, of the ways in which BOTH Democrats and Republicans have fucked up our city, county, state and country, can apply this voting strategy, in the general election, (should any incumbent hacks survive their respective primaries), to ensure that practically ALL incumbents are ousted.
    
    This will open up the general election for any and all independent candidates to have the chance of successfully challenging the major party candidates.
    
    GET REGISTERED TO VOTE
    
    VOTE IN EVERY ELECTION, (be it a Primary or a General Election.)
    
    USE THE POWER OF YOUR VOTE TO COMPEL CHANGE
    
    Try it, you'll like it.
        
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    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:18:01 -0500</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[Orion]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I love how everyong tries to hijack my name.
    
    I must really be in your heads.
    You folks are so gullible, just like the electorate.
        
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    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 05:16:42 -0500</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[Orion]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[i love how daley's cops whoop everyone...go daley!!!
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Carter]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[if only the censor could just remove all the self-congratulatory fluff written by one "Orion"
    
    isn't there already a blog for overpaid patronage hacks somewhere?
    
    www.sittingonmyasseatingadonut.com or something?
        
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    <pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:06:19 -0500</pubDate> 
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      <![CDATA[Hmmmm, the censor is at work again....
        
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    <pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:46:48 -0500</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[Courtney]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[My favorite CAPS moment?  When the Sargent stated that the rash of burglaries in the neighborhood were our fault (and that's a quote)!  I didn't know blaming the victim was a community policing strategy!!!
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Re: No CAPS fan]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Sorry, meant to say "...CAPS meetings AREN'T the place for surprising revelations..."
        
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          Posted by Re: No CAPS fan]]>
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    <pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:48:38 -0500</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[No CAPS fan, but...]]></author>
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      <![CDATA["The gang-bangers and other riffraff already know that a CAPS meeting is the place to observe and identify those citizens willing to work with the police."
    
    Trust me, they knew those things before CAPS even came into existance. What big secrets are being dished out at a CAPS meeting? "There are thugs hanging out on the corner at Blah and Blah." "They're dealing drugs in front of the building at 123 Sesame Street." Yeah, wow, big secrets. The cops already know those things, the thugs certainly know it and the people know it. The only people to whom info that that would be a revelation would be people who live on the necxt block over. 
    
    CAPS meetings are the place for surprising revelations, which you'd know if you went. And if you have gone, what vital gangbanging secret info have you been privvy to at one of these meetings?
    
    "Why hasn't this administration provided a web site, like this one, where citizens can say whatever they want to say to the police, by posting comments?"
    
    A website? That's your CAPS alternative? Yeah, random unverifiable info from an unknown source on the INTERNET is MUCH better than hearing from acutal citizens face to face. Hell, I'd even take a CAPS meeting over a phone call. If you don't know, not everyone calling the cops are doing so with the good of the community in their thoughts. If the cops are over THERE, then we can do what we want to do over HERE.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Carter]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[City govt ineptitude notwithstanding, that's totally lame.
    
    So with police right there people are afraid?  What do you think is the solution, private security forces for everyone?  
    
    I have heard this same excuse for why people don't phone in graffiti requests (the gangbangers are listening to the radio waves!).
    
    You can start a blog if you want a place to complain to the police and you can hope they respond, but I find it perfectly reasonable that cops can't - and shouldn't - just act on random, unsubstantiated info - unless you want to live in an Orwellian police state.
    
    Anyone can complain anonymously, but the principle of being able to face your accuser is a fundamental right in this country not to be thrown away.
    
    The biggest problem in this city is too many people stay indoors and veg out on the boob tube, and moan on message boards instead of going outside and interacting with their neighbors.  Decent folks are far and away the majority in this city, it's long overdue to start living like it.
        
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      <![CDATA[Andrew has missed the point.
    
    These CAPS meetings are regularly attended by the criminal elements in the area.
    
    The gang-bangers and other riffraff already know that a CAPS meeting is the place to observe and identify those citizens willing to work with the police.
    
    For this reason alone, CAPS meetings are NOT the place for citizens to communicate information and concerns to the police.
    
    The ONLY purpose of the CAPS program is to give the APPEARANCE  that this mayor's administration cares about the safety of citizens.
    
    You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out the many ways citizens CAN communicate information on criminal activities to the police.
    
    They don't have to do so at a public meeting.
    
    Why hasn't this administration provided a web site, like this one, where citizens can say whatever they want to say to the police, by posting comments?
    
    We know why there are no longer beat cops, the police department doesn't have the manpower, period.
    
    We also know why the Daley administration continues the sham CAPS program, as a public relations ruse and as a haven for clouted 'merit police' hacks.
    
    The fact that Daley and his cronies have yet to bargain in good faith with the police labor union is an indication of how low a value the police are held in by same.
    
    The fact that the mayor uses the police misconduct of a few cops as a means to distract from all of HIS misconduct and incompetence is also revealing.
    
    The one thing that we see, time and time again, is the allergic reaction those in control of our city, county and state governments have to the light of day.
        
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      <![CDATA[This is in response to Orion's comment posted on October 12th.
    
    I am one of Mick's students and we are from Northwestern not Columbia. I was at the meeting where this ocurred and when the officer told us to turn off our recorders we all looked at Mick and this is when he began to argue with the officer.  He argued more than what he said in this article and could have gone on for much longer, but in the interest of his students he decided to compromise so that we could accomplish the assignment that we were sent to the meeting for. So because he swallowed his pride for us he obviously showed that he wasn't backing down he was looking out for us so Thank You Mick.  
    
    Oh and about the part of us being price gauged, Northwestern definately does that, but Mick is one of the best journalism teachers I've had so far and a true professional and since I am his student I think mine is the only opinion that should count when it comes to that matter.
        
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      <![CDATA[Mick, if your point is that CAPS and CPD suck because your plebes couldn't record the meeting, that's fine.  But I suppose then, by your logic, any old criminal gangbanger can attend a beat meeting and record it to make sure that he knows who is ratting him and his boyzz out.  Hell, why stop there, let's invite them in to the meeting and let them videotape it so they can be SURE they know who's trying to rat them out.  
    
    It's my sense that the meetings shouldnt be recorded in order to encourage particpiation.  Recording devices would merely serve to dampen and discorage participation.
    
    And on another note, did anyone at your beat meeting appreciate you using their beat meeting as a laboratory experiment for the eager little Jpupils?
        
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      <![CDATA[Here's another EXCELLENT, readable open government resource, includes both freedom of information an open meetings info:
    
    Open Government Guide: Illinois
    
    Prepared by:
    
    Donald M. Craven, Esq.
    Scott B. Sievers, Esq.
    
    http://www.rcfp.org/ogg/index.php?op=browse&state=IL
        
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      <![CDATA[the value of the CAPS meetings, as some have touched on above, seems to be that it puts a lot of people in contact who are concerned about crime, and are willing to get off their butts to see what they can do.  
    
    phone trees, neighborhood walks and BBQs, etc do make a difference - I think teens especially are a lot less likely to be causing serious crimes (and I'm not talking about a group of kids hanging out, that's a constitutional right, not a "loitering" crime) when neighbors know each other, the anonymity of a large city can be conducive to an atmosphere where people think they can get anyway with anything because nobody is paying attention.  CAPS meetings at least build networks in the community (although I'd still like to see the Beat cop come back, perhaps on bikes).
        
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