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      <title>Comments On: Ron Rosenbaum trashes media consultant who tells print journalists to pull up their socks
    
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    <author><![CDATA[just a few]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[A few thoughts:
    
    
    1. Do journalists write what they believe their potential readers want to read? (and, thus, refrain from writing what they believe their potential readers do not want to read?)
    
    2. Do journalists seek to know 'the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth', and to write same? Or are they, as a rule, satisfied with falling short of that goal?
    
    3. Does the business of selling a product trump the vocation of seeking to know, and share, what is true?
    
    4. Amongst journalists, is there still an understanding of the differences between entertaining content and informative content?
    
    5. Are there any living human beings left who consider themselves to be journalists, whose understanding of the profession of journalism has any relevance to the 1st Amendment Rights enumerated in our nation's Constitution/Bill of Rights?
    
    6. Are the changes in the natures of journalistic content a cause, or a result of, the changes in the publics' perceptions of what is more valuable, truth or amusing fiction?
    
    7. Along the same lines, are journalists responding to an apparent readership desire for the simplification of the complex, or are journalists simplifying complexities because of their own lack of understanding same?
    
    8. Does anyone still believe that journalistic businesses are inherently dedicated to the pursuit of truth?
    
    9. And, that journalistic businesses are, thus, immune to being sources of non-truth, ie., lies?
    
    
    
    At the risk of revealing a penchant for cynicism, I won't be holding my breath awaiting answers to my queries.
        
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      <![CDATA[I was part of the group that worked on the future of newsrooms. What have not been mentioned is that we were proposing to help the newsroom with bloggers but also with paid "citizen journalists". I proposed, with Beno&Atilde;&reg;t Raph&Atilde;&laquo;l the editor of Lepost.fr (Le Monde Multimedia Group), to follow the French model of local newspaper. Model where there is 10 paid "citizen journalists" (they call them correspondents) for 1 pro-journalist. Local newspapers, in France, have been functioning this way for the past 50 years. 70 to 80% of the content of a local newspaper is produced by those paid correspondents.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Harold]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Well said, Katie. On the business and ownership side, there was (and is) a comprehensive failure to envision and get ahead of the new situation. On the editorial side, there was much redesign and reinvention from the top but almost no editorial guidance (something the Reader had never needed and never developed). On the writing side, some of us kept our heads down and plowed ahead in blind hope, instead of raising cain internally. What could have happened if we had *all* done in 2003 the kind of comprehensive rethink that CUNY did recently? Beats me.
        
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      <![CDATA[Well, to clarify: I understand that how you diagnose the problem directs how you formulate a solution, and finding the source of the problem is part of the diagnosis. But blaming it on "journalists" is not a useful designation, because your solution can't be to take journalists out of journalism. Who, exactly, are we talking about? Editors? Publishers? CEOs? Staff writers? And is it all of them, or ones who abide by a certain mindset, etc.? Surely some are at fault more than others. Spreading the blame broadly may be cathartic, or something, but it doesn't give you information that you can use to move forward.
        
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      <![CDATA[All this talk over whose "fault" it was seems a little ridiculous. Why focus our energies on that? No one is denying there's a problem now -- so pay attention to the environment, think creatively, and move on.
        
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