http://www.chicagoreader.com/TheBlog/archives/2007/08/07/memorium-ingmar Comments On: In memoriam, Ingmar by Jonathan Rosenbaum en-us Copyright 2009 Chicago Reader. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, Chicago Reader readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact Chicago Reader. wil@desert.net (Chicago Reader Webmaster) Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:00:01 -0600 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:15:00 -0600 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by David]]> Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:05:26 -0500 Chicago Reader Posted by Alex Bas]]> Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:44:34 -0500 Chicago Reader Posted by Germano]]> Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:39:39 -0500 Chicago Reader Posted by Ben]]> Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:29:02 -0500 Chicago Reader Posted by Colin]]> Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:40:18 -0500 Chicago Reader Posted by Colin]]> Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:02:52 -0500 Chicago Reader Posted by Dottie]]> Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:39:55 -0500 Chicago Reader Breathless did make the final cut. It's a lot of films to look through so it's easy to miss. I originally posted that I was amazed that M didn't make until Edward Copeland e-mailed me to point out that it did. I would not worry that you went about things too quickly as I find your list inclusive and diverse. Colin said, " Bergman might be getting more praise at the moment but that's simply because it’s safer to give accolades to a "dead master" than a "newer" filmmaker like Kiarostami." This is probably correct. I love Wild Strawberries and included it on my list. I realize many would not agree with that and I know you (Jonathan) have asked the Bergman supporters to "explain" his greatness. I, alas, cannot carry out that task nor do I believe anyone can with any director. I can tell you that I think the story of an old man coming to terms with his past affects me deeply in the way it was presented. I can point out camerawork, editing, use of sound, etc. But of course you and anyone else can point that out with any other movie as well. If you like the end result of Wild Strawberries you understand if you don't you won't understand. That's why your original piece (that I am embarrassed to say upset me so) makes perfect sense to me as does Bergman's own assessment of Welles. After all the technical discussion of a work is through it really comes down to how it affects you and if you feel, as I believe you do, that Bergman tells you nothing new about life, then I doubt there is anything I can argue that would change that. By the same token, you have written about the end of Artificial Intelligence and I felt you made a lot of sense. But... I still didn't like it. You once wrote that someone trying to convince you otherwise (about the end of Artificial Intelligence) may as well be speaking in foreign tongues. To that I say, "Exactly." Maybe that's why this Bergman discussion has gone on so long, because people are speaking in two different tongues - The "I like Bergman" tongue and the "I don't like Bergman tongue." A Tower of Babel of sorts for the film world. I'm not even that big a fan of Bergman, I just very much like Wild Strawberries, Persona, and Shame. And one final thought: Many films grow on us in time in different ways. I originally thought The Godfather, Part II was a masterfully done sequel but years later I view it as redundant, telling me nothing new about Michael or Vito that I didn't already know from the first film, just a lot more information. Also when I first saw Playtime I was not that thrilled by it. But I couldn't stop thinking about it and watched it again when it came out on DVD and now I have seen it countless times, absolutely love it and put it on my top 25 as well. Maybe Bergman will change for you, maybe not. As long as you're honest about it I can't see any problem with vigorous discussion of a exalted director's career.
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