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    <author><![CDATA[rudy]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Isn't this program a red herring designed to distract us from the the City's attempt to expand its patronage pool by creating monopolies for its favorite waste haulers?
        
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    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:22:18 -0500</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[Orion's Bro]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[There goes that blowhard Westfart again. Get a job or something!!!!!!!
        
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          Posted by Orion's Bro]]>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:31:34 -0500</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[Thomas Westgard]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I'm curious about this statement in the article above: "The costs are passed on to residents and customers in the form of higher rent, condo fees, or prices at the cash register."
    
    That's your basic trickle-down economics, which isn't looking so reliable in the current economic climate. It sounds a lot like that kind of platitude that gets repeated but not challenged.
    
    Obviously, if a check gets written to the trash hauler, that money has to come from somewhere and can't be paid elsewhere. But there's an implicit assumption that the transaction really is that simple. Is it? It could well be the case that landlords of large buildings (or of some buildings) absorb the cost to some degree. It's also not obvious how negotiating with large buildings affects the price of trash hauling. It could be that large buildings are able to diminish the cost of trash hauling, especially if they are a large entity, able to cut deals for multiple buildings and thus are buying in bulk.
    
    There' also no analysis of the cost of NOT recycling. This is a little tougher to compute, especially if you try to calculate long-term costs of landfilling, but difficulty of computation does NOT mean that there is no cost attached to it. The costs of NOT recycling also get passed to the consumer, so what's really relevant is comparing the cost of recycling to the cost of not.
    
    The reason all of this is important is this: the argument that mandatory recycling for large buildings costs the consumer money supports the status quo of no recycling, benefits the trash haulers to the detriment of recycling (and those who want recycling). If it's the simple cost-passing function you claim, that's one thing. I've listed several factors that go in the other direction. Do you have any reason to think that a simple cost-passing analysis is an accurate depiction of the situation?
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Errol C O'Brien aka Kelly O'Brien]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Bill Daley was on the board of Waste Management.
    Allied Waste is close to mob associate Freddie Barbara, Victor Reyes, Tim Degnan, indicted ward sup Al Sanchez and HDO.
    HDO wanted to put their gang banger hacks into Allied Waste.
        
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