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      <![CDATA[MAS is LIAR.  Those hacks Marge Britton and Doug Fraser, both on her staff, ARE LIARS.  What MAS and her LIARS did to a large group of residents who opposed the construction of a tower at 5440 is DISGUSTING.
    (Hi Doug! kisses).
        
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      <![CDATA[THEY don't really care if they find a particular one of their 'faces' "out of sorts with just about everyone.", THEY'VE got plenty of faces to replace the few and far between ones they have to write off.
    
    It's the BODY of the multiple-faced clout-creature that keeps regenerating faces that we must render impotent, not merely the individual faces. 
    
    Ironic, that the majestic elephant and the hard-working donkey are the chosen mascots for this creature, as it possesses NONE of the characteristics of either.
        
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      <![CDATA[You got it, Chip and Sue Ellen are happy as clams.  Dougie had nothing to do with it, that Z&P committee is a joke of a &acirc;&#128;&#152;community process&acirc;&#128;&#153;.  Look at the job he did at the community council, getting rid of Lynn Pierce and Chris Lawrence, he'll manage to do the same to her staff/organization.  This will be her swan song.  They keep alienating such good people to benefit so few, and think no one is catching on, but they are.  This wasn't a big hit with the 'in' crowd of Edgewater, let's see what she does about Sheridan road and with the fire house on Ridge.  I think people have had enough of her.  Let us hope Harry finds the balls to call on his mommy's friend the mayor, and starts getting things in Edgewater back on the right track, otherwise they might all find themselves out of sorts with just about everyone.
        
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      <![CDATA[re: the "re pumpkin" question of what people would that be?  I can guess and I can surmise and I can look at her campaign funding info.
    
    Who would benefit from the opening of the Uptown Theatre?  First of all, it would give a legacy to an alderman who is available to the  press but not the people. How about the people like JAM who buy it and then get TIF money to develope it.   Then there are the owners of the adjacent buildings like the Longs and the Bridgeview Bank (formerly Uptown Bank) which has lots of buildings and mortgages in the hood.  It will be interesting to see who benefits from the two TIFs that will be involved. The rape of Edgewater goes on.  Congratulations Dougie, she must love you for  pulling this one off. But then isn't that why she put you over at the Community Council??
        
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    <author><![CDATA[How about....]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[HAVE NO DOUBT, VOTE INCUMBENTS OUT?
    
    And keep doing so, until truly honest people find the encouragement to run for office.
    
    That encouragement will be quickly following a massive firing of incumbents, by having no doubts and voting practically all incumbents out of office, making exceptions where one chooses, but doing so only when convinced the incumbent has EARNED the privilege of being retained.
        
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      <![CDATA[Just disappointment, I have no doubt this is someone who appears to be honest, but they just keep endorsing ass wipes like MAS and Stroger, then shut up when told so by Daley and votes for Stroger&acirc;&#128;&#153;s budget.  It&acirc;&#128;&#153;s all so disappointing.  No need to read anything more into it.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[And yet...]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[And yet, Mike LOOKS like an honest guy.
    
    Is this the new 'combine' strategy, finding people who APPEAR to be honest and incorruptible, yet, are internally pliable, if no rotten to the core?
        
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      <![CDATA[Everyone one of those at the 48th Ward Z&P meeting knew this a 'tool' to port money down to Uptown's never actualized 'entertainment district'.
    
    Few of them who voted on this issue are held accountable, and so MAS and her bungling COS won't be held accountable either.  I wouldn't be so dismissive to the concerns of thousands of people who voiced objections to 5440 though.  The naval academy, committeeman selection, aldermanic non-elections, and so many more missteps is revealing that the empress has fewer and fewer close to hide behind.  This is not someone who is committed to a transparent and inclusive community involvement, but in simple power plays.  A few more years, and Harry will inherit his mommy's title, MAS will have little to show for a lasting legacy.
    
    The big question in my mind is what happened to much vaunted Quigley?  In his own back yard, and yet another whimper from our hero who voted for Stroger&acirc;&#128;&#153;s budget and is talking about TIFs in a ploy to get press attention.  Everything I've heard Quigley talk about was pointed out by the Neighborhood Capital Budget Group well before he took up the issue.  He'll make another half-hearted attempt at getting TIFs on your tax bills, and in the end, he'll cower yet again.  He&acirc;&#128;&#153;s &acirc;&#128;&#152;The man with little expectations.&acirc;&#128;&#153;
        
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      <![CDATA[What people would that be?
        
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      <![CDATA[I have always wondered why those nice people in Uptown who have been buying the homes and rehabbing them would want the Uptown Theatre open again. 2,000 seats plus the Aragon plus the Riviera??? 
    
    Maybe they are jealous of Lakeview which has a CUBS immersion whenever there is a night game.  No parking on any of the streets, customers can't get to businesses, babysitters and guests can't park.  
    
    Or maybe they have penis envy and just want to see drunks pissing on their lawns?
        
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      <![CDATA[There were some comments made about Hollywood & Sheridan as a 3 lane being put in the TIF.  They were right.  There is not enough of Sheridan Road in the TIF to cover it but Smith knows that CDOT will never allow it.  So as FOCUS pointed out, it was just a ploy to sway the Sheridan Road vote. 
    
    It was about 10 years ago she promised us a plan for traffic in 3 months.   We are still waiting. 
    
    Funny how the same people who have ruined previous blog discussions in the 48th Ward are here, too. 
    
    So 2000 residents of the neighborhood signed a petition against 5440.  Big deal.  With our population density that is a drop in the bucket. And with our population diversity, a lot of them didn't even know what they were signing.  On the other hand, many thousands of other people wanted 5440 built. They count too.   The mistake Mary Ann Smith made was letting the Bob and the anti-people delay the process and spoil the design.  What she did accomplish was she set neighbor against neighbor so she could divide and conquer.  
    
    Her newbie chief of staff bungled it all badly. But she who never makes a mistake, would never admit that.  She will just say that the vote in favor of the TIF and higher taxes was a vote of confidence in her policies.  
    
    In the meantime, Edgewater gets plundered for the boondogle Uptown Theatre. I am really surprised that given the state of the Chicago
    Theatre's economics, people are still thinking about renovating that old white elephant.  OOPS! I said the mystical word -- elephant.  I will now turn into a pumpkin.
        
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      <![CDATA[thank you, hugh
    June 27th - 3 p.m.
    
    "Okay, I'll make a point of not ever including your posts in my humble attempts at clarity.
    
    I need not point out that even if you find nothing useful in my occasional efforts, others may."
    
    Since you seem to know everything, you tell us why I thought it was interesting.
        
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      <![CDATA[> As the above series of posts are very interesting, I've taken the liberty of 'opening them up' a bit, for easier reading
    
    if you want to contribute please stop re-posting and tell us WHY you thought it was interesting
        
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      <![CDATA[You have succinctly pointed out much of the flaws with TIF's in IL.  I can only suggest that you read Ben Joravsky's TIF archives, and come to your own conclusions on WHO is responsible for the perversion of what was initially a very effective and limited program.
    
    Why are TIF's being designated for areas clearly not needing this type of assistance?  Because we tolerate our local officials lack of leadership, and I would include Commissioner Quigley in this as well.  I have never seen anyone fold so fast when the mayor&acirc;&#128;&#153;s minions started ripping into him.
        
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      <![CDATA[Stone stood
    
    should be
    
    Stone sat
    
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    sorry
        
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      <![CDATA[Please correct me where I'm wrong, but, aren't TIFs supposed to be solely for the purpose of attracting private sector investments into areas sorely in need of same?
    
    Isn't the whole purpose of TIFs intended to be to stimulate this private sector investment to provide opportunities for employment to those areas' residents desperately lacking in same?
    
    Isn't the freezing of tax revenues going to the very government functions that educate those areas' residents' children the reluctant compromise that is supposed to be offset by the gains in private sector investments and the benefits garnered from same?
    
    And doesn't the state bear a substantial portion of this shortfall, otherwise the schools in those areas would be greatly under-funded?
    
    So, why are ANY of these TIF funds being spent in any other areas than the ones in which the TIF is located?
    
    And why are TIFs being designated for areas clearly NOT needing this type of 'assistance'? 
    
    And how has it come to be that the decisions on where TIFs are to be designated, quite properly being in the hands of the local authorities, who would know best where they are the most needed, have been made in such a way as to neglect the very areas they were designed to assist in the first place?
    
    And WHO are the individuals responsible for this perversion of what was initially an intelligent and beneficial program?
        
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      <![CDATA[Stone stood in front of a recent community meeting, which included many in the audience who THOUGHT they were on a TIF advisory committee, and told us,
    
    "I don't know what you THINK you were appointed to do, but I appointed you, you serve at the pleasure of the alderman, and I'll let you know when your services are required."
    
    Meanwhile, he's talking to developers about TIF-subsidized projects in the TIF.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[thank you, hugh]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Okay, I'll make a point of not ever including your posts in my humble attempts at clarity.
    
    I need not point out that even if you find nothing useful in my occasional efforts, others may.
        
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      <![CDATA[> The &acirc;&#128;&#152;advisory council&acirc;&#128;&#153; is useless if they are not accountable to the residence within the community of the given TIFs &acirc;&#128;&#147; MAS is not committed to community input
    
    I think I understand your despair.
    
    We are seeing more of this in recent TIFs - the alderman comes to the community with YET ANOTHER TIF - but THIS one is going to be different - we will have a community advisory board!
    
    All I'm trying to suggest is that when we hear this from our aldermen that we should call their bluffs and not hesitate to ask for it IN WRITING, in the enabling ordinance, specifying the composition and powers of the "community" board. Otherwise it's just hot air.
    
    Stone agreed to a "community" advisory board when he was stumping for his latest TIF. Now the TIF is passed and gosh darn if we can't get him to actually convene the thing.
        
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      <![CDATA[please don't
    
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      <![CDATA[I try to be accurate and respectful of the intended meaning.
        
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    <pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:22:56 -0500</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[Re NR and RSHS]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I don't take offense or care if you repost them.  Yes, that was the meaning I meant in both you're statements.
        
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      <![CDATA[I think what you meant to say, you said the first time, ie., "I don't let the local alderman off too easy, they are responsible for abusing the TIF programs, but I also DON'T think you SHOULD let the State off the hook."
    
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    I don't let the local alderman off too easy, they are responsible for abusing the TIF programs, but I also think you SHOULDN'T let the State off the hook.
        
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      <![CDATA[No, indeed, your posts are filled with information and I humbly attempt to make them a bit easier to read.
    
    I apologize for taking the liberty of slightly changing a few words here and there, usually, when I re-post someone's interesting comment, I copy and paste verbatim, yours seemed like it could use a little tweaking.
    
    I hope  didn't do anything to change the meaning of it.
    
    The ideas and opinions contained within your comments are important and informing.
    
    Thank you for commenting.
        
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      <![CDATA[It should have read 'I don't let the local alderman off too easy, they are responsible for abusing the TIF programs, but I also don't think you SHOULDN'T let the State off the hook."
    
    Shouldn't let the State off the hook.
    
    That is the third time you have copied my post - do I ramble that often?
        
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