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      <![CDATA[@MrJM<br>
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And we don't watch where we put our butts.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Pelham - You mean like always extinguishing your kltpzyxm?<br>
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-- MrJM
        
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      <![CDATA[@Alan Solomon<br>
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One of us is Lex Luthor. The other is Mr. Mxyzptlk.
        
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      <![CDATA[An exhaustive list of the etiquette tips from "The CTA readers' 'Guide to a Civilized Ride'":<br>
<br>
• Watch where you put your butt.<br>
• Be careful with your backpack.<br>
• Odor is the pits.<br>
• Watch what you put in your mouth.<br>
• Control yourself.<br>
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Quick -- someone alert the Pulitzer committee!<br>
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-- MrJM
        
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      <![CDATA[have i ever mentioned IAC seems well practiced at exaggerating his/her reasoning abilities?<br>
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after reading this thread, i do apologize for the 'well practiced' part.
        
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      <![CDATA[@ IAC - Nah. I just enjoy the give and take.
        
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      <![CDATA[I assume, Alan, that is because you are enjoying the absurdity of FGFM suggesting that because something approaching a "CTA etiquette tips" post was at one time made would somehow prove my point incorrect. All I was saying was that there are many posts on ChicagoNow that deal with serious and/or important subjects just as there are ones that deal with lighthearted and/or less important subjects.
        
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      <![CDATA[Suddenly, I love this thread.
        
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      <![CDATA["That post, Chris, doesn't involve CTA etiquette tips. It asks readers to share etiquette pet peeves about CTA passengers.
        
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      <![CDATA[That post, Chris, doesn't involve CTA etiquette tips. It asks readers to share etiquette pet peeves about CTA passengers.
        
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      <![CDATA['I see that nobody has provided examples of the mysterious "CTA etiquette tips" on ChicagoNow discussed earlier. I don't think either of the posters who mentioned and criticized them have seen any such posts.'<br>
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Nice to see that IAC is still batting 1.000.
        
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      <![CDATA[Happy reading:<br>
<a href="http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/going-public/2010/05/what-are-your-cta-etiquette-peeves.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/going-publ&hellip;</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[I'm going to try to be brief and see if I can take no more than 10 to 15 minutes responding to your most naive comments, Pelham. For whatever reason, I am just unable to let those comments just sit unaddressed.
        
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      <![CDATA[A quick addition: I was vague in that last paragraph, so let me be more specific. If a decent leader isn't on the horizon, what could be?
        
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      <![CDATA[@Alan Solomon<br>
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Oh, I think it's only about 20 to 30 percent of us who are easily frightened idiots. Most of the rest of us are passive -- which, oddly enough, can be a positive, at least relatively so.
        
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      <![CDATA[One quick postscript to my earlier comment.<br>
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Not only have we become a nation of idiots, but what's worse and far more dangerous: We've become a nation of easily frightened idiots.<br>
<br>
OK, back to our regularly scheduled commentary.
        
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      <![CDATA["and CTA etiquette tips"<br>
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Can somebody please provide an example of a Chicago Now post that provides "CTA etiquette tips"? I suppose people can spend a few days discussing what the fact that these posts exist mean to the media landscape and the world at large.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Pelham <br>
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Wish you were right -- and maybe you are. For sure, I admire your passion.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Alan Solomon<br>
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I disagree. Look at France.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Pelham: Re "How do you make informed, timely coverage of, say, federal financial regulation every bit as scintillating and vibrant as (well, almost as) Ashton Kutcher tweets and CTA etiquette tips? That's the ticket."
        
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      <![CDATA[Excellent point about the potential for meddling posed by grant granters vs. ad buyers.<br>
<br>
Even better point about the predominance of stuff like "pet grooming and food trends ... entertainment chatter and CTA etiquette" at ChicagoNow. Meanwhile, at the opposite end of the scale, the posh old-school/only-semi-new-media Chicago News Cooperative is still surviving on grants and may be hard-pressed financially by early 2012.<br>
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So where does this leave us?
        
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          <a href="http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/Profile?oid=1162621">Pelham</a>]]>
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: Net News in Chicago: Still Poor, Still Striving]]></title>

    
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    <author><![CDATA[DrewVT6]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[In regards to this:<br>
" Anyone with boiling blood and a way with words used to be able to launch an alternative rag and leave a stack of copies in his favorite coffee houses and bars. Will the day come when the only way to reach an audience online is to go through the Tribune and ChicagoNow?"<br>
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It's even easier to reach an even wider audience for far less money that it was in the print media.
        
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          <a href="http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/Profile?oid=2463969">DrewVT6</a>]]>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:51:11 -0500</pubDate>
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: Net News in Chicago: Still Poor, Still Striving]]></title>

    
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    <author><![CDATA[The original IAC]]></author>
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      <![CDATA["The Tribune is already dominating the delivery of old-fashioned newsprint journalism in Chicago — including its competitors. Apparently it's taking over the delivery of websites too.
        
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          <a href="http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/Profile?oid=1173280">The original IAC</a>]]>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 02:44:49 -0500</pubDate>
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