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Tuesday, June 10, 2008

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Posted by Mick Dumke on Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:18 PM

How do you think the Children’s Museum vote will shake out Wednesday in the City Council? Not well for foes of the museum plan, in our estimation—we smell a rout. And we're going to lay out how exactly we think it will break down. What say you? Predict the final tally right and you’ll win … our sincere respect. Or something like that.  

 

 

 

MICK SAYS

BEN SAYS

 

1

Manny Flores

N

N

Handsome alderman doesn't want to be pushed around.

2

Robert Fioretti

N

N

No way.

3

Pat Dowell

Y

N

Mick: She's choosing her battles. Ben: Don't be a wuss, Pat!

4

Toni Preckwinkle

N

N

Washington Park may be next.

5

Leslie Hairston

Y

Y

Goes with Arne Duncan and the rest of U. of C. lab school crowd [registration required].

6

Freddrenna Lyle

Y

Y

Rule of thumb: Don't fight if it's not worth fighting for.

7

Sandi Jackson

N

N

Fight the power! And the baggage handling fees too.

8

Michelle Harris

Y

Y

Installed as part of the Stroger deal, she has no choice. Ever.

9

Anthony Beale

Y

Y

And do you have room for an A. Philip Randolph museum?

10

John Pope

Y

Y

Sure--why not?

11

James Balcer

Y

Y

In honor of those who serve and those who vote for resolutions for those who served.

12

George Cardenas

Y

Y

What would Victor Reyes do?

13

Frank Olivo

Y

N

Ben: Mike Madigan delivers his alderman for his former aide Reilly. Mick: Not gonna happen.

14

Ed Burke

Y

Y

Will figure out way to make money on this deal--with full disclosure, of course.

15

Toni Foulkes

N

N

Actually tries to keep progressive campaign promises.

16

JoAnn Thompson

Y

Y

Little interest in keeping progressive campaign promises.

17

Latasha Thomas

Y

Y

What would Father Pfleger do?

18

Lona Lane

Y

Y

Wait, she gets to vote too?

19

Virginia Rugai

Y

Y

We don't want a children's museum in Beverly.

20

Willie Cochran

Y

Y

If he's sick, ward boss Leon Finney can fill in.

21

Howard Brookins Jr.

N

N

Remember the Wal-Mart!

22

Ricardo Munoz

N

N

No doubt about it.

23

Michael Zalewski

Y

Y

LOL

24

Sharon Denise Dixon

Y

Y

Learns fast.

25

Danny Solis

Y

Y

To some, "No" is a four-letter word.

26

Billy Ocasio

N

N

Why can't you put the thing in my ward?

27

Walter Burnett Jr.

Y

Y

Always happy to help.

28

Ed Smith

N

N

Welcome back to the independent bloc.

29

Isaac Carothers

Y

Y

Heavy lifter weighs in.

30

Ariel Reboyras

Y

Y

Nice guys vote yes.

31

Ray Suarez

Y

Y

Surly guys vote yes.

32

Scott Waguespack

N

N

Another chance to show he's not Ted Matlak.

33

Richard Mell

Y

Y

Hopes museum installs shooting range.

34

Carrie Austin

Y

Y

Can she vote "Aye" twice?

35

Rey Colon

N

N

Will vote as they want but Logan Square lefties will still hate him.

36

William J.P. Banks

Y

Y

I'll show you prerogative, young whippersnapper.

37

Emma Mitts

Y

Y

Remember the Wal-Mart!

38

Tom Allen

N

N

Rebellious constituents will be watching.

39

Margaret Laurino

Y

Y

Count me in.

40

Patrick O'Connor

Y

Y

Has been lobbied hard by sister-in-law.

41

Brian Doherty

Y

Y

Bipartisanship once again.

42

Brendan Reilly

N

N

Hospital, museum--what children's institution can I fight next?

43

Vi Daley

N

N

It's practically her ward too.

44

Tom Tunney

Y

N

Ben: Sticking up for the lakefront. Mick: Sticking up for the man.

45

Patrick Levar

Y

Y

Yes, boss.

46

Helen Shiller

Y

Y

Will do anything for Wilson Yard TIF.

47

Eugene Schulter

Y

N

Ben: Come on, you can do it!   Mick: Come on, you really can't.

48

Mary Ann Smith

Y

Y

Can I kick Brendan Reilly off the ballot?

49

Joe Moore

N

N

May get to vote, but no mike privileges.

50

Bernard Stone

Y

Y

Please wake me up when it's time to vote yes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

TOTAL

35-15

31-19

 

 

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YES 9,999,999 NO 0

Posted by Frank Coconate on June 10, 2008 at 10:50 PM | Report this comment
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If you have a problem with me ,than run against me. You better stop bad mouthing me in front of my wife.

Posted by Jesse Jr on June 10, 2008 at 11:05 PM | Report this comment
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Pat O'Connor should go to jail. How many Romanians do business in the 40th ward?

Posted by Do nothing but not quite a ghost ROB on June 10, 2008 at 11:23 PM | Report this comment
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From the SecondCityCop blog's comment section: "Did anyone read the article in the Sunday Slum-Times about the 3rd generation of Daley’s getting themselves line up to run the City of Chicago after Rich “The Bitch” retires? They have already spread their familial tentacles throughout the city’s business community and seem to think that the exorbitant taxes that Chicago residents are forced to pay is their private largess. How can anyone vote for this bumbling dumbo ? If it wasn’t for his name and membership in the “Lucky Sperm Club” this asshole would be making a living with a broom or shovel. And, he probably couldn’t handle that job. The article infers that if you want to do business with the city and can’t get a permit, license, etc., hire a Daley, or a Daley crony. Magically, all the barriers collapse. For a price. How much more shit does this nitwit have to pull before the Feds perp-walk him out of city hall? Fitzgerald should get busy and put an end to this, in the words of Jane Byrne, Evil Cabal. And while he’s at it he should check out the skullduggery going on in relation to politicians using their office and patronage armies to get their kids elected to public office. I’m talking the likes of Mike 'It’s my money,' Madigan using his troops to get Lisa Madigan elected Attorney General. There was a lot of talk about what was going on in that rented office at 9900 S. Kedzie. Then there is William Lipinski pulling a fast one and dropping out of the House race after he won the primary, and handing the U.S. Rep’s job to his pick and shovel son. Then there is Tom Hynes, a really pompous, arrogant asshole. Danny Boy was handed the office of Illinois Comptroller. It stretches the imagination to think that all three members of the LSC didn’t get illegal help from their ward organizations. Ward workers didn’t answer phones and perform various sundry duties for their campaigns while collecting government checks. I don’t think so. And, all the while Richard Moron Daley does his best impersonation of Sgt. Schultz from Hogan’s Heroes. 'I knooooow noooothiiiing'" http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

Posted by Nostrodamus on June 11, 2008 at 4:13 AM | Report this comment
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other aspects of life -- both domestic and foreign -- as perceived from Chicago. We won’t see “Exposing Daley” soon Tuesday, May 13, 2008 WBBM-TV seems to have found a new franchise – “Exposing Xxxx Xxxxxxxx.” It was a few months ago (Nov. 29, 2007, to be exact) that the CBS-owned television station in Chicago aired “Exposing Rod Blagojevich,” a nearly 8-minute report (or about one-third of the total newscast) that detailed just how unpopular Gov. Rod Blagojevich has become. MONDAY NIGHT, WE viewers of WBBM got to see political reporter Mike Flannery (with help from producer Ed Marshall – a long-time Chicago broadcaster who did a brief stint as former Illinois Comptroller Loleta Didrickson’s press secretary) do another similar report. This time, it was “Exposing Todd Stroger” – a 6-minute report that told us just how unpopular Cook County President Todd Stroger has become. There wasn’t anything terribly new – or at least nothing that those of us who pay attention to the Chicago Sun-Times didn’t already know. Todd has several relatives and friends in mid- to high-ranking positions on the Cook County government payroll, all of who receive salaries of at least $100,000. About the most interesting tidbit I got out of the WBBM report was that Stroger works out of a fancy office with an incredible view of Lake Michigan – just like a lot of other people who work in downtown Chicago. THE LOGICAL NEXT step would be “Exposing Daley.” If one is going to go after the governor and the county board president, then “getting” the mayor of Chicago would be the natural completion to the trio of political powerhouses. Somehow, I doubt there will be any such report. Getting people to take pot shots at Blagojevich and Stroger is ridiculously easy. In fact, the trick for a reporter-type is to figure out which critics actually know what they’re talking about – and which are just sore losers. TAKING SHOTS AT Daley is a different matter – Hizzoner Jr. has the ability to crush anybody who tries to speak out against him, which will inhibit the number of people willing to go on camera and talk political trash. WBBM would literally have to resort to putting Daley critics in the shadows and distorting their voices to even consider getting them to talk. In short, it isn’t going to happen. We have a better chance of seeing “Exposing Madigan” (take your pick, Mike or Lisa) or “Exposing Obama” before we see anyone go after the Man on

Posted by reflection of truth on June 11, 2008 at 6:40 AM | Report this comment
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People are still being sent to jail due to Mcdonout exposing the hired truck scam. Rain blockers are still being used by the city water dept. so the exposing of rain blockers didn't accomplish very much,but to get some mope's name in the news.

Posted by quarters on June 11, 2008 at 6:49 AM | Report this comment
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quaters, Your wrong . All the hired truck scandal did was move the trucks to MWRD and the County. What it did accomplish was guys like me ,making $10.00 a hour ,to lose our jobs. The real scandal is US Attoney Fitzgerald leaves Mayor Daley alone to steal millions and how double standards are a pratice in this City . Like Chicago Police Sargent Gerald Breimon(Jan Pestka's son) fondles a young woman and because he has clout , he will be promoted soon! Or Judge Sheila Kilroe McGinnis arrested for drunk driving, refuses a breathalyzer, she too will be back as a Judge or the Ultimate insult on our justice system, Patrick Daley(son of da mayor) , the Army hero that never saw action while others die! He stole from the taxpayers, millions of $, by using a front company MSS. Whistleblowers like Pat McDonough are used to deflect all the attention away from the Daley people and onto the working class. Just look at his background: Lives in DesPlaines(City Workers must live in Chicago), Had a DUI he did not report to the Inspector General, and broke laws in DesPlaines...Yet he still is on the City pay roll! WHY? His clout is retired Cook County States Attorney Dick Devine! So this City is wired top to bottom, with the little guy getting screwed by the day!

Posted by Bob Sulski on June 11, 2008 at 8:19 AM | Report this comment
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George ! Tell me again about the rabbits ... Well Lenny....it's like this....

Posted by Taxpayer of Chicago (After the Museum Vote) on June 11, 2008 at 8:23 AM | Report this comment
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Nostrodamus, You better not put me on http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

Posted by Policeman Gerald Breimon on June 11, 2008 at 8:29 AM | Report this comment
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Originally posted: June 10, 2008 Chicago Tribune Dumb and destructive Should police have the power to force drivers to take a blood test for DUI? Read Wednesday's Tribune editorial. There’s really no off season for DUI. Pick any night, and there will be drunk drivers on the road. This time of year, some of them will be teens, fresh from graduation parties where alcohol is served—sometimes when the parents aren’t watching and sometimes when they are. Some will be adults who’ve already been convicted of DUI and are still endangering themselves and other drivers. Yes, it’s incredibly dumb and destructive. But they’ll figure they won’t get caught. Or if they do, they’ll find a way to escape punishment. But here’s the reality. The laws are stronger than ever. The cops are finding new ways to catch drunk drivers. And the penalties are stiff. That goes not just for the driver, but for those who may have a role in providing alcohol. So before you drink and drive—or look the other way at a graduation party—consider:  Under a new Illinois law, parents who knowingly permit underage drinking in their homes can face up to three years in prison and a fine of $25,000. That’s a response to the case of Jeffrey and Sara Hutsell, the parents who were convicted of endangering a child and other charges after they opened their Deerfield home for a teen drinking party in 2006. In the aftermath, two teens died in a car crash near the Hutsells’ home. The driver’s blood-alcohol limit was nearly twice the legal limit.  If you refuse a Breathalyzer test, figuring it’ll be harder for prosecutors to convict you, the police have authority to draw blood to test your blood-alcohol level. Kane County authorities used that threat recently on what they called a “no-refusal weekend.” It was aimed at repeat offenders who exploit a loophole in Illinois law. Refusing to blow into the Breathalyzer brings an automatic three-year license suspension for a driver who has a prior DUI (or six months if you have no prior conviction). But that’s not as steep as a second DUI conviction, which brings a five year-license revocation. Of the 14 DUI suspects arrested in Kane County over the Memorial Day weekend, eight drivers refused to take the breath test. They were threatened or served with a warrant that required them to provide either a blood or breath sample. In the end, none was physically forced to give blood, said Kane County State’s Atty. John Barsanti, because “there could be a fight and you’ve got people with needles.” But the threat worked: Eventually, only one suspect refused to provide either a blood or breath sample. He will likely face contempt charges, prosecutors said. Barsanti called the weekend “wildly successful” and vowed to do more of them. “We got seven samples we never would have gotten,” he said. Six of the seven drivers were over the legal limit, he said. The seventh case is pending results of a blood test. We know that all the laws and checkpoints in the world won’t stop some people from drinking and driving. They’re convinced that they can slide by. Too many of them are, tragically, wrong. This is a time of year for celebrations. Graduation. New jobs. A time to savor summer after a long winter. Don’t make it a season for premature funerals.

Posted by Judge Sheila/Paddy McDoughnuts on June 11, 2008 at 9:17 AM | Report this comment
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How can I feel sorry for the Northsiders and downtown people who are under seige from Daley/Gini Pritzter,when most of these people voted for the Thug Mayor. You tree huggers and people around Grant park,in the past backed Daley 100%. NOW THE CHICKEN HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST.

Posted by OPEN BOOK on June 11, 2008 at 10:10 AM | Report this comment
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Ben, the eternal optimist

Posted by Hugh on June 11, 2008 at 11:27 AM | Report this comment
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Ocasio is not going to vote no. Unless Little Lying Luis tells him too.

Posted by Pedro on June 11, 2008 at 11:32 AM | Report this comment
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Hey LaborPol, Ben and Mick: Labor money well spent on 15th Ward alderman. Ring up another one that we have flipped. Ka-Ching !

Posted by Orion on June 11, 2008 at 1:08 PM | Report this comment
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Mick wins. The people lose.

Posted by The Broken Heart of Rogers Park on June 11, 2008 at 2:08 PM | Report this comment
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"How can I feel sorry for the Northsiders and downtown people who are under seige from Daley/Gini Pritzter,when most of these people voted for the Thug Mayor. You tree huggers and people around Grant park,in the past backed Daley 100%. NOW THE CHICKEN HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST." Hard to argue with that logic. Give a guy near-dictatorial power, and don't be surprised when he uses it.

Posted by Skeptic on June 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM | Report this comment
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Aaron M. Ward was only concerned about the view from his office building being obscured, not about the people being able to use Grant Park. Read the book, "Forever Open Free and Clear"

Posted by Orion on June 11, 2008 at 2:25 PM | Report this comment
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What is the Childrens Museum? and Why do we need to build one?

Posted by Frank Coconate on June 11, 2008 at 2:40 PM | Report this comment
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It is a place where you and R.Kelly go to pick up girls (and boys)

Posted by Orion on June 11, 2008 at 2:45 PM | Report this comment
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Oh ! Like Chicago Latin High School!

Posted by Frank Coconate on June 11, 2008 at 4:38 PM | Report this comment
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DO YOU CUT THE LAWN THERE?

Posted by oRION on June 11, 2008 at 5:08 PM | Report this comment
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Ben: Big Meanie! Stick to TIFs, you meanie! Dumke: Tee hee hee, I made fun of your name. You're a meanie, too! Lay off Mayor Daley! PS: Where can I get another poster of him ;)

Posted by Orion on June 11, 2008 at 5:22 PM | Report this comment
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Whoopsiedoodle! I meant to type DUMBke.

Posted by Orion on June 11, 2008 at 5:30 PM | Report this comment
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Hey Mick and Ben, are you gonna help the schmucks who voted against the mayor when it comes to election time? They will be gone next time. They did not want to play ball with the mayor and take a deal like Firoetti and others so they get nothing but a headache now. they are going to take them out! And you two will sit there and do what?

Posted by Art on June 11, 2008 at 5:59 PM | Report this comment
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HAVE NO DOUBT, VOTE INCUMBENTS OUT

Posted by Solve the Problem on June 11, 2008 at 7:08 PM | Report this comment
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HAVE NO DOUBT, VOTE INCUMBENTS OUT

Posted by End the Madness on June 11, 2008 at 7:12 PM | Report this comment
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Think about how much the voters could accomplish by voting in the Democratic Primary, applying the HAVE NO DOUBT, VOTE INCUMBENTS OUT voting formula, (see below), and using their votes to deny renomination, (as the Democratic candidates in the General Election), to the Incumbent Democrats. Think about how less difficult it would be for Challenger candidates to defeat their Democratic opponents, were those Democratic opponents, in whatever contest, (be it city or county), NOT Incumbents. Think about how the Democratic Party's reputation for invincibility, in this city and county, would be shattered, were few to none of their Incumbent officeholders to win renomination in their own Primary. Think about the immense amount of money the Democrats would then have to spend, to garner anywhere near the name recognition for the non-Incumbent Democratic candidates they would be stuck with running in the General Election. After considering the HAVE NO DOUBT, VOTE INCUMBENTS OUT voting strategy, think about the nature of those individuals who would be the Democratic candidates in the General Election, and the likelihood of few, if any, being authentic shills for the democratic Party. Think about the inevitable debates that would arise, either publicly broadcast or privately engaged in amongst citizens and the politically active alike, all beginning with the question, "What the hell happened in the Democratic Primary? A shitload of Incumbents were rejected by the Democratic voters, and the Democratic Party of Cook County can't explain why!" We are at a crossroads here, certainly in this city and this county, let alone this state and this country, and zombie-like party loyalty is what has brought us to this point; political party loyalty isn't going to produce anything but more of the same. If there ever was a time to 'think outside the box' it's now. For your, and every citizen/voter's, consideration: REGISTER TO VOTE VOTE IN EVERY ELECTION In the Primary Election, cast your votes with the goal of ousting as many Incumbents as possible, by applying this formula: If the Incumbent has only a single Challenger, VOTE FOR THAT CHALLENGER. If the Incumbent has 2 or more Challengers, cast your vote according to the Ballot Position of the candidates listed, to wit: If the Incumbent's name is listed FIRST, then vote FOR the Challenger candidate whose name is listed LAST. OR If the Incumbent's name is NOT listed first, then vote FOR the Challenger candidate's name that IS LISTED FIRST. Applying this strategy will concentrate the most votes for a single, random, unpredictably selected Challenger, thus having the potential of overcoming even the most egregious vote fraud the Democrats are capable of engaging in, should enough citizens choose to restore the power of their votes to our elections and, thus, to our governance. In addition, whenever you, the voter, have the chance to oust an elected Incumbent by voting to NOT RETAIN, do so. Encourage all citizens to: REGISTER TO VOTE VOTE IN EVERY ELECTION and to HAVE NO DOUBT, VOTE INCUMBENTS OUT If Change is what is truly wanted, applying this strategy will effect change, big time. Think about it.

Posted by Vote for Change on June 11, 2008 at 7:21 PM | Report this comment
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I thought about it for a second and decided I'd rather watch Celebrity Circus instead. Give it up HAVE NO DOUBT, VOTE INCUMBENTS OUT and relax to a little fun in life.

Posted by Orion on June 11, 2008 at 9:34 PM | Report this comment
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Now, whatever makes you think I'm not having fun?

Posted by re orion's funny life on June 12, 2008 at 3:42 AM | Report this comment

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