Wednesday, April 16, 2008
News / Chicagoland The reviews are in
Posted by Whet Moser on Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Damn.
"How many debate moderators actually get booed on live television? That's how bad it was."
"perhaps the most embarrassing performance by the media in a major presidential debate this year"
"My God. It gets worse and worse. Just move the whole thing to Fox."
"I am outraged, practically shaking, that the debate is almost half over and no issues have been discussed."
"like a battle of Manos the Hands of Fate v.s. Red Zone Cuba"
"Now they're asking about Iraq -- seems like the kind of third-tier issue I'd wait an hour to ask about!"
"We are now 45 minutes into the debate and there has not been a single question on the issues."
"throwing my Subway sandwich at the TV"
"policy questions don't lead to fireworks—but at least you don't get duds like tonight"
"One gets the distinct impression that the debate is geared towards the chattering class, not the nation at large."
So: who liked it? Jonah Goldberg, Mark Hemingway, and John Podhoretz.
You didn't miss much if you didn't watch it. Go read Salon's interesting and fair-minded piece on the three candidates' (McCain? Remember him?) plans to end the war and hug yourself if you were doing something else this evening.
Noted: Kos writes: "I honestly don't understand why Democrats haven't learned to ignore the bullshit substance-less questions and simply say, 'Okay, that's a dumb question. Let's talk about something people care about, like the housing crisis.'" This is mostly but not entirely fair--Obama made a halfhearted pushback at one point. Still: why not? Because if they don't like you, they'll fuck you up; ask Mitt Romney or Al Gore.
Who's they? Who ain't? (cf.)
Update: Welcome Slate readers! If any of you are important D.C. political journalists, please tell someone that if someone really wants to pwn Obama for real, ask dude to explain his firm alliance with the Chicago democratic machine (not Rezko, which has been done to death, but Daley, the odious Dorothy Tillman, etc). Because we can't figure it out. My colleague Ben Joravsky explains better than I can.
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George Robert Stephanopoulos (born February 10, 1961) is an American broadcaster and political adviser. He is currently ABC News's Chief Washington Correspondent and the host of ABC's Sunday morning news show This Week. Prior to joining ABC News, he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 U.S. presidential campaign of Bill Clinton and later became Clinton's communications director. And you wonder why the debate was ugly?? The moderators were actually on Clinton's side. I mean jeez, why don't we just have a pretend debate, and then..Oh wait we just did.
True, but didn't Stephanopoulos end on bad terms with the Clintons? I thought he and Bill were on bad terms for awhile, at least.
That was the most DESPICABLE and DISGUSTING circus performance in the history of man. ABC should be ashamed and in particular, George S and Charlie G; they were no more journalists than I am, so they either need to go back to school or get out of the "news" business. News used to be about FACTS AND TRUTH, but "used to" must have died because there was nothing in that so called debate about fact or truth. We used to watch George S on Sunday mornings, but he can better believe that will NEVER happen again in our household. We never watched Charlie G because all he appeared to be was a panderer and fluff moderator. So if ABC did not learn anything from last night, they will certainly never learn - they were the WORST! SHAME ON YOU ABC, SHAME ON YOU ABC (and your so-called moderators - a fifth grader would have done a much better job!)
If you want to know how George feels about Hillary and Bill, read his autobiography and stop making assumptions without all the information. He does not have a good relationship with them. He resigned from his position because he didn't agree with them and has been outspoken about it. So, no, the moderators are not Clinton supporters. Stop being bitter because Obama finally got the same treatment Clinton has received and he couldn't take the heat. The republicans are going to eat him alive and they won't be handling him with velvet gloves like the liberal media has.
The Bush/Cheney/McCain/Clinton Axis went to town on Obama at the debate. Are we sure that George isn't still on the McCain/Clinton Axis payroll? I mean, would a reputable journalist let Sean Hannity spoonfeed him a question? I'm a conservative and a progressive, a small town religious hunter, and the debate convinced me that Obama is the only candidate left standing who is interested in doing the most good for the most people. Far from whining, he stood up to the Axis, held out his chin, and took their best shot. In November, I'm voting for Obama, either because he's on the ballot or because I write in his name. Too bad the Clinton Axis doesn't have the courage to withdraw honorably rather than try to take Obama down with her.
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