The Chicago Urban League hosted a Third Ward candidates' forum Tuesday night. It started 20 minutes late and was over about 2 minutes later.
At 6:30, the forum's scheduled start time, challenger Pat Dowell was sitting by herself at the candidates' table, facing a restless audience of more than 200 people. By 6:40 she was in the lobby conferring with her staff and event organizers. At 6:45 one of the organizers stepped to the podium. "One of the candidates has a conflict and sent a surrogate," he said. "The other candidate is discussing how to proceed."
It wasn't too hard to figure out which candidate was which. By 6:50 the "surrogate"--longtime political activist Jacky Grimshaw--was sitting in the seat everyone had expected Third Ward alderman Dorothy Tillman to occupy, while Dowell leaned into the microphone.
"I think tonight demonstrates exactly why we need change in this ward," Dowell said. "I was here to have a candidates' forum, not a surrogates' forum." She left the room.
Grimshaw hurried to the podium. "Dorothy is busy taking care of the business of the Third Ward," she said.
People from the audience were out of their seats, and several were crowding around her. They booed. Outside the entrance to the building Dowell supporters kept up a chant of "Where is Dorothy?"
"You can boo all you want!" Grimshaw yelled. "But the bottom line is that Dorothy Tillman is the alderman of the Third Ward and she gets to decide where she wants to spend her time!"
The boos turned to hostile shouts insulting Tillman and Grimshaw. Grimshaw returned them.
Word spread that Tillman was planning to attend the monthly meeting of the Gap Community Organization, just about a mile away; the group had invited the candidates from the Second and Third Wards to make a few remarks. About a half hour later, as she strolled into the event, Tillman brushed aside questions about her failure to show up for the Urban League's forum, which had been scheduled since shortly after the first round of balloting on February 27. "They knew I wasn't going to be there," Tillman said. "I never confirmed."
She had committed to the Gap's meeting--but just this Monday afternoon, a little more than 24 hours beforehand and a month after she was invited to it, according to the group's president.
Dowell arrived at the Gap meeting a few minutes after Tillman. They were each given 15 minutes to speak without interruption, and they spent it ripping into each other.
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The 'Hat' strikes again. It must be tough, being a royal princess and getting no respect from the 'commoners'.
Sleepy head awards. http://morsehellhole.blogspot.com/2007/01/city-council-opening-roll-calls.html
I wonder what's underneath her hat. I bet it's a portal to Narnia.
You know, I never had much of an opinion about her either way, but watching her debate on Sunday morning, I came to the conclusion this is one of the most obnoxious humans on the planet. she just can't shut up - she interrupted both Dowell and the reporter moderating (NBC, I think) constantly. Tillman seems to have an overall problem with LISTENING - not a good trait for a politician.
I am glad that the reader is paying the only attention to our cities local races while the Sun-Times and Tribune seem to act the same way as these arrogant public servants (They will decide what is news worthy â not the readers who will live with the consequences for the next four years.) Good luck to Pat - it should be her picture that you are displaying rather than the picture of this self-inflated, egotistical, shrill individual who does not seem to understand that it is the constituents who decide who represents them - and that they are PUBLIC SERVANTS accountable for their actions and inactions. GO PAT DOWELL
Bring in some fresh ideas. Time to hang up the hat...
Dorothy Tillman is a racist. Dorothy Tillman is a clown and buffoon. Dorothy Tillman is corrupt, shaking down developers and crossing the line in "helping" her family. The shortage of jobs, retail, the moving out of poor people along with resources for those same people is a joke. She treats her Mexican residents like garbage. She plays the race card to make people distracted from the issue, actually encourage racism, and exploit her own people. Harold Washington was right about her.
Dorothy Tillman is being looked into with Sawyer and Ezzie Higglebottom the arsonist.
Let me get this straight: - anti Dorothy Tillman posts are allowed without restriction -anti Dowell posts are deleted. good job.
Orion - read through the other post - these are not filtered or deleted - Tillman just seems to not have anyone who is well read supporting her - I am not suprised, anyone well informed would know that this kind of individual is the last person you want representing anyone.
Not 'Narnia', but maybe 'Nobody's Homia'
It's just your posts that get deleted, as you're a proven instigator.
So calling Dorothy a racist, a clown, a buffoon, a shakedown artist, etc is acceptable. Legit questions about Dowell are purged. So much for freedom. Guess the Reader is afraid of the Jackson mafia
The Reader isn't even afraid of habitual instigators, what to speak of anyone's 'mafia'.
Dorothy Tillman is a tool for Daley. Dorothy Tillman screwed up the Burge hearings.
and maybe she's making regular runs to Florida.
I don't live in the 2nd Ward, and wouldn't on a bet. However, many years ago, I had cause to read the U.S. Circuit Cout of Appeals' decision in Stevens v. Tillman, 855 F.2d 394 (7th Cir. 1987). If you're one of the two or three remaining literate Chicagoans that doesn't consider Dorothy Tillman a major civic embarassment, her conduct outlined in the decision will change your mind.
So you are hanging your choice on a twenty year old court case? Quite a stretch.
A link for the decision sited above: http://www.casp.net/stevens1.html I don't live in the 2nd Ward either, and do not know if this case of events that happened over two decades old would have much influence on my decision if I did live in the 2nd Ward - but after two decades of an Alderman who knows how to take care of her kids but not the community - I know I would be voting against this buffoon. Mabey the voters of the 2nd Ward would do well to see how this individual acted two decades ago and take a page out of her book - serve her with an "eviction notice" and let her know that you are going to "Get her out of here or we are going to come and get her. We are going to come and get her ourselves" the next time she refuses to show up for a community forum - a community she is handsomely paid to listen too and address their problems.
I ment to say the 3rd Ward - Third Ward. Sorry for the mistake.
The 'Hat' has a long history of acting 'mannish', it's what's gotten her all she has. If enough voters still believe in uncivil-disobedience, they'll keep her, hat, mouth and all. If they review her accomplishments as alderman, or lack of same, they may decide that her aldermanic history has been less helpful than her earlier activism. Whatever the outcome, one thing we can be sure of is that Tillman has taken excellent care of her own interests. Those hats don't come cheap.
Given your sloppy-ness in not even being able to get the correct ward number, why should anyone give any credence to the rest of what you have to say ? God Bless Dorothy for leading the fight to get that horrible principal out of the Mollison School. I guess you folks would say that Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King were trouble makers too.
That was then, this is now. Tillman parleyed her early activism into what she's become, just an ordinary, self-promoting political hack, no more responsive to her constituents than any other. She's been a sell-out for many years now and the residents of her ward are slowly figuring this out. Maybe this time the residents will show her the door. It's long overdue.
Dorothy Tillman is a racist to Hispanics (and whites too). She is a buffoonish but dangerous idiot. She is corrupt to the core. There is good educated alternative. I do not understand how anyone could vote for Dorothy Tillman.
Tillman is a joke and a tool for Daley.
Being Daley's tool ain't no laughing matter. Ask Tillman if the pain she feels every time she takes a dump is worth the high-priced headgear.
Orion - God Bless all of the folks who are going to get rid of this horrible Alderman in the THIRD (3RD)WARD!! And I don't see anyone but you who are trying to stand up for this idiot you, and you alone, have attempted to defend. Rosa Parks and MLK are not an appropriate comparison - maybe someone like David Duke is a better comparison - still stuck in an era of segregation and race baiting. Tillman is a joke - good riddance!
Uh, 'orion' is a poster who is not shy about taking whatever position is opposite of the most popular one. Orion loves conflict and disagreement. Orion may see him/her-self as a catalyst for controversy and/or as a stimulus of energetic discussion. I suppose there will always be a need for someone who has a taste for stirring up the shit. We should all express our appreciation that he/she finds the job to her/his liking. Thank you, Orion, for being talented enough to be on both sides of any fence at one time. You are truly talented.
I would hazard to guess that those of you that are so much against her could not find your way to 44th and Vincennes with a road map. Outsiders support her opponent on this site, just like outsiders support her opponent financially. You folks should stick to the brie and cheese set.
Hey Orion, get it straight. Dorothy Tillman is the one taking outsider money to the tune of over $300,000 from suburban developers, Walmart(based in Arkansas), Target, And dozens of Republican business leaders from the North Shore. Pat Dowell is getting her money from the unions that have over 5,000 members in the 3rd Ward. These members make VOLUNARY political contributions and elect leaders to decide how that money is allocated. It would seem that Tillman is a tool of big business and Daley developers. Who is the sellout now?
Dorothy gave a good old south side verbal bitch-slapping to Dowell on Chicago Tonight - pointed out that Dowell was fired from her job with the City and getting 80% of her money from Unions/Developers/U of Chicago - all of whom want to grab the land from the Black folks of the ward. Dowell is a Judas-goat who will lead her own people to the slaughter.
I wish that black folks owned the land in the 3rd Ward, unfortunately Dorothy the Hat has made sure that the hundreds of vacant lots and abandoned properties in the community go to the suburban developers and Friends of Dorothy. BTW, Pat Dowell was a highly respected city planner with the city before she chose to go back to community based development work. Also, Dorothy is down 30 points in polls. She is done. Put a fork in her. Nite, nite buddy!
'orion' doesn't like brie and cheese. 'orion' doesn't like 'outsiders', tho she/he is always on the outside, looking in. 'orion' doesn't like 'slopiness'. 'orion' doesn't like 'purgings'. 'orion' doesn't like 'getting things straight'. What else doesn't 'orion' like? We can be sure he/she will let us know.
You seem to have a fixation on me instead of the topics in the message thread. Maybe you need to get a hobby .
Well, you need another one besides me.
I used to respect Jacky Grimshaw and her cracker husband wrote a great book BITTER FRUIT But how can Jacky Grimshaw be pimping for a clown like Tillman She is terrible for us
She's got bills to pay, just like everybody else.
When Tillman had a City Council committee chairmanship, she hired Grimshaw after Mayor Mumbles, I mean Sawyer, fired her from her job in the Mayor's office.
What is it with these Black womens like Laura Washington and Jacky Grimshaw going with cracker husbands? How about givin some brothas some love. What would Farrakhan say about that? Jacki Grimshaw can figure a better way to pay her bills than work for the worst alderman in the City Council who has completely sold her people out.
Do you have a job for her? One that pays? Not working the street? Or the corner?
I don't know. Do you? Did you take pictures or video?
Tyrese: Have you taken a good look at Grimshaw and cock-eyed Laura Washington ? I think the white men they are married to are doing the brothas a favor by taking them out of circulation. Those two I would not even make a booty call wearing beer goggles.
But Mary Mitchell is a hottie and she hates Black mens too. She has too much anger to Black mens. She needs to lift the male up and not tear him down. These nappy headed media hos are down on brothas and need to stop being self hating racists. Laura Washington and Jacky Grimshaw should get Black mens. Mary Mitchell just gots to accept that Black mens are playahs and not to hate the playah but hate the game and be happy that they are going home to them.
"These nappy headed media hos" So, whys everybody so upset with Imus's comments?
I have been reading all the hate that has been aimed @ my mother over the web.... I have watched her give her all & everything to the people... And this run off is nothing more than outside people who want to control land that we literally cleaned up and made worth something. After she was elected I spent my weekends along side the community with a broom, rake and a shovel cleaning up our ward. and Now that it's worth something my mothers character is being assasinated. She is being called a lying crook and you all are buying it. And what really pains me is to see my black people divided by hate that is spoon fed to them by the media. We have no beef with Dowell She has ever right to run. It just really pains me as my mothers son, to see all that she has worked for... "not talking about the 3rd ward or the Harold Washington Center" . But All she has done for the plite of our people just go up in a smoke of lies and hate. If anyone is a joke it's all the sheople who consitsanlly fall for the media's O-Kee-doke. My mother is not a racist... If you all knew the true definition you'll see that it is this media. Who has the resorces and the power to influence and decide the fate of a person or a people... It's not about votes... It's about this Willy Lynch style division that is running ramped not only in this ward but all the run off in all "our" neihborhoods that are rapidly improving. A house divided will always fall. Lets wake up and come together Before we are all wipe off the Chicago map, The sububan map and into the state pen. that where they us anyway... Read the 13th amend"myth" carefully... 13th. Amendment to the U.S. Constitution Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a "punishment for crime" whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Section 2. congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
My God, "son", I hope that you are not a product of the Chicago Public School that your mother ran the principal off from. Anyway, poor grammar and spelling aside, I tend to agree with you. I just need one thing: When planning an event at the Cultural Center on 47th, why does the Alderman force people to use your sisters' catering company and to use you for production and technical services ? Why are so many Tillman's on the payroll for things that are controlled by your mother ? Having said that, I would still rather have the Hat instead of someone that is going to give the land to the University of Chicago which is Pat Dowell's plan.
Why does 'orion' feel the need to comment on issues that have no relevance to 'orion'? Certainly, 'orion', you don't claim to be a resident of the 3rd ward, or even a resident of the city of Chicago, or even a resident of the county of Cook, or maybe not even a resident of the state of Illinois? or even of these United States of America? So, 'orion', what's your beef?
The last I checked, the "qualifications" to post are: Name: Email: Comment: I did not see a residency requirement. And not that it is any of your business oh brave annonymous "Why?", but in as much as my City, County, State and Federal tax dollars do not have a shipping label on them went they go into the various government coffers, I am entitled to opine on whatever about the government I so choose, unlike an unemployed beatnik like yourself that contributes nothing to the planet except CO2 when you exhale.
So, if 'orion' is so upset with the misuse/abuse of taxpayers' dollars, why the following history of posts? "orion April 4th - 6:27 p.m. Let me get this straight: - anti Dorothy Tillman posts are allowed without restriction -anti Dowell posts are deleted. good job." and "orion April 4th - 10:09 p.m. So calling Dorothy a racist, a clown, a buffoon, a shakedown artist, etc is acceptable. Legit questions about Dowell are purged. So much for freedom. Guess the Reader is afraid of the Jackson mafia" and "Orion April 5th - 11:38 p.m. I would hazard to guess that those of you that are so much against her could not find your way to 44th and Vincennes with a road map. Outsiders support her opponent on this site, just like outsiders support her opponent financially. You folks should stick to the brie and cheese set." and "Orion April 6th - 12:21 a.m. Dorothy gave a good old south side verbal bitch-slapping to Dowell on Chicago Tonight - pointed out that Dowell was fired from her job with the City and getting 80% of her money from Unions/Developers/U of Chicago - all of whom want to grab the land from the Black folks of the ward. Dowell is a Judas-goat who will lead her own people to the slaughter." and "Orion April 7th - 9 p.m. When Tillman had a City Council committee chairmanship, she hired Grimshaw after Mayor Mumbles, I mean Sawyer, fired her from her job in the Mayor's office." and "Orion April 9th - 11:42 a.m. Tyrese: Have you taken a good look at Grimshaw and cock-eyed Laura Washington ? I think the white men they are married to are doing the brothas a favor by taking them out of circulation. Those two I would not even make a booty call wearing beer goggles." and "orion April 1st - 1:26 p.m. Mell Observer: Ben has such a hard on for the TIFs that it is taking away from his abilities on other stories." and "orion March 28th - 2:58 p.m. On the contrary, I think you and others of your ilk that moan about people not voting are not giving the masses enough credit for knowing what is or is not good for them, much in the same way the term-limit crowd crows about. IF things were as really as bad as you and your believers would believe, people would be lining up outside of the polling place before 6:00am to turn the rascals out. Instead of pleading despair, have you ever thought that people are content (except for those in the media that love a good cat fight, and other malcontents who just like to bitch) and see no need to storm the Bastille ? Incumbents are not bullet proof (see Dan Walker, Jimmy Carter, George Bush I, Jane Byrne, etc.). Don't sell the people short." and "Orion March 28th - 5:33 p.m. Too busy to spend 5 minutes at a polling place to change something that is "corrupt" ? I do not think anyone is THAT busy. As for the rest of your rant, you might want to spend the energy you use typing your manifesto on seeking employment because the City is not going to hire you back. This site really needs to be moderated................" and "Orion March 28th - 10:16 p.m. Only takes 5 minutes to vote. Less time than the downtrodden spend in line buying lottery tickets, or watching American Idol on TV. The economy is booming, if the train left you at the station,that is your fault. And if I were the moderator, I would keep topics on task, not let you and others of your ilk hijack them with your insane theories." and "Orion March 30th - 5:35 p.m. Well you aren't me, so you can take your philosophical mumbo jumbo and kiss my ass. This is a friggin blog, for entertainment, not a Harkness table." and "Orion March 31st - 11:33 a.m. If people are depending on the musings of the brie and cheese eating crowd on an unmoderated message board as the basis for making an electoral decision, then it does not augur well for the future and state of our republic." So, 'orion', have you ever met an opinion that you haven't taken pleasure in opposing?
There is only one Tillman on payroll... there are at least 4 other food venders tha are used... and I know my $h!t... nepitism is only wrong in the black community. All of us could be off doing better things than making the chump change we do. But the facility is very new and there are no room for mistakes... We have too many haters who wants to see it crumble and fail. We are all pretty much borderline vovunteers until things get in cruse control. don't be fool by all the hype. the center is a great and wonderful place and I'm proud of it and what it represents. Look around the city. Its Very Segragated. You have every ethnic group represented and you know it when you turn the corner. China town, Greek town, go up division and it's Latinos.There is little italy even Boys town... the moment we get our own... Then it's an issue about "tax payers money" "Nepitism" and on and on. Culture and Identity is very important something that my people have stuggle with for generations. Black, Negro, Afro Americn , African American... Hip hop, Neo Soul, Old School, New school..... more separation... more divisions... more jails... our culture is rich and needs to be represented in this city. without it we are just another neighborhood waiting to be consumed...
So, how are you going to inspire the trust of your fellow black citizens, if you do as the white man does?
Beatnik: You sure have a hard-on for me. You are approaching Justin Warfel- type stalking territory (the young man sex swinger Jack Ryan hired to follow Barak Obama). Too bad you did not post the censored posts too - the people would have really learned something about the candidates. If these few posts get your goat, you must be having a coronary over the thread that has 300+ posts on the Stone/Dolar race. I am waiting for you to tie my posts into a story on TIFS.
If it is so hard to run a facility, then why not let professional facility managers run it ? And then you would be free to do something else besides earn chump change. And from my reading of the IL Form 990 on file with the State, you and sis are far from making chump change.
This may appear to be insincere, but consider it AS sincere for a few moments,to wit: This comment board can be, for as long as the Reader permits, a venue, for those whose hobbies are merely to be criticizers, to compose their own articles and post same. Any takers out there?
Dorothy Tillman's son is as inarticulate and uneducated and his mother. A real product of Chicago Public Schools. Uneducated fools are why Black people are being moved out of the city with Massah Daley and his house servant Dorothy the Clown Tillman. Dorothy Tillman is CLEARLY racist especially against her Hispanic population.
Fuck Off invitation, don't try to curb free speech here. If the politics is too hot for you get out of the kitchen. I have been involved in politics for over 30 years and I remember during Harold Washingtons day when an opponent running against Dorothy had a meeting with Mayor Washington and recorded it, had Harold basically said that Dorothy was a loud mouth dummy, I donât remember who the opponent was but I think he got in trouble for recording the Mayor without his permission. Dorothy has been bad for the ward, in the last ten years she has gotten real bad, even Lou Rahls got fed up this her and withdrew his name from what is not the Harold Washington Cultural center on 47th Street. Her daughter caters the events there, they got a piece of building across the street, She hogs land and keeps it vacant or sells to insiders. She is tolerated by the Mayor and Alderman Burke because its easier for them to let her spout off about something than to try to stop her, in her old days she sees the wisdom of operating in the good old boy system. I thing its time to retire the âHATâ as Congressman Jesse Jackson sayâs âRetire Aunt Hattieâ
Thank you for your 'well written', highly informative and freely expressed article. You may be well advised to revisit English 101, as well as, perhaps, resume smoking the substance of your choice. Also, try using that tube of Preparation H somewhere other than you mouth, it'll be more helpful in moderating your 'mood swings'.
Go On Orion....These guys are just in a tizzy...They have NO idea who Alderman Dorothy Tillman is. I bet they are just Jackson Jr. and the Union mouthpieces...NOBODY KNOWS PAT or likes her. A strong Black Woman is always a threat...Well the alderman is a Christian and Congresman Rev. Jesse Jackson, Jr. is going to answer to his God about his hateful actions. I have never met so many mean people trying to insert an elected official. I live in her ward and Pat's people are the meanest, crabs in the bucket, haters I have ever met. Congressman Rev. Jesse Jackson, Jr. has that Short Man's Complex going and he has destroyed his chances in the Black Community to ever become Mayor. He might not make it back to Congress is the word in the streets. That Aunt Hattie comment showed how mean spirited he is. I wonder if his father is going to march on him for such a degrading comment? I work with Senior Citizens and they are ashamed of him. "Forgive them father 'cause they know not what they do" God Bless and Victory to Sister Tillman.
maybe 'smartgirl' and 'orion' can hook up, 'orion's' in need of some luvin', that's for sure.
Writing praises to yourself ? We do not need North Halseted street morals in the 3rd ward.
Father: Frankly, I could care less how The Hat treats the illegals, I mean Mexican, residents in her ward. Hopefully they will move to 26th or 18th street and stop bringing down the ward.
Like the 'orion's' of this world bring up anything but bile?
LOL@Orion and SmartGirl. Clearly y'all need a "Come to Jesus" moment. I was a resident of the 3rd Ward for over twenty years before moving to the north side of the city. I was there when ground was being broken for the Harold Washington Cultural Center, back when Lou Rawls's name was supposed to be on the front. I was there when she killed Gerri's Palm Tavern. I was there when she ushered over 500 residents out of the Rosenwald building on 47th and Michigan, declaring it uninhabitable when it was NOT. How do I know? BECAUSE MY MOTHER AND I WERE LIVING THERE AT THE TIME. When I was a reporter for the Chicago Defender this broad called my desk to curse me out for linking her to a black reparations group, KNOWING that she was in cahoots with 'em. This is not only a woman without integrity, this is a woman without honor or a good dictionary, and the fact that the city's black elite are endorsing this poor excuse for a politician makes my stomach turn. I hope that the residents of the 3rd Ward--whatever's left of them--will pull the lever for Pat Dowell tomorrow.
Orion, FYI: brie IS cheese, so "brie and cheese eating crowd" doesn't make much sense. Perhaps you meant "brie and red wine crowd", or "brie and caviar eating crowd"? Brie on crackers goes well with merlot. Try it, it may help you loosen up a bit.
'orion' is about as 'loose' as he/she is likely to ever be. Blogging at random, jumping from one 'side' of an issue to the other is 'orion's' chief form of self-amusement. Perhaps you are hopeful that 'orion' may increase his/her vocabulary. Don't hold you breath.
You can have all of that queer food.
Well "Son", looks like you are gonna have to find another job besides having the monopoloy on tech work at the Harold Washington Cultural Center.
Pat WILL give away the store to her employer, the University of Chicago. She talks black in the daytime but her ex-husband is white. He divorced her when he discovered her "lesbian lifestyle". Hurt the man so bad he moved out to Naperville and convinced the Divorce judge to give him full custody - that does not happen that often. When these new breed Negros that just moved into the ward 5 years ago or less, that voted against The Hat, start to see big orange eminent domain signs on their homes because Dowell gave away the store to the University of Chicago (that has been drooling to get that land), it will serve them right. The only good out of this is that in the aftermath, Jesse Jr. will never become Mayor. He has angered too many black folks and for a black to become Mayor he has to get near 100% of the black vote in addition to picking up some whites and hispanics. Ain't gonna happen now. Jr. will be Congressman for life.
"the hat", what the hell are your talking about? u of c? eminent domain signs???? you have absolutely been drinking from the fountain of tainted dorthy tillman kool-aid. what is it with all of these conspiracy theories these tillman nuts come up with. its no wonder you voted for such a snake oil salesman like tillman- you deserve her. obviously you don't live in the ward. obviously you have never tried to have her assist you with an issue in the ward. obviously you don't know how full of crap she is. i personally have attempted to do business in the ward and i am a black man. i assume that since i did not give her $60 grand like a buddy of mine had to do to get his project off the ground in the 3rd ward that she didn't even return one of my 20-25 calls in about 45 days for something very routine and simple that could have actually helped her. even the very few people that she "helped" over the past 23 years hated to work with her because she was such an underhanded, despicable, slimy, lier, who pimped her ward and fooled folks like you by talking loud and doing very, very little. instead of trying to discredit dowell with childish accusations of being homosexual (does that help perform her aldermanic duties) open your eyes to the truth and ask yourself where the 23 years of development are in the ward. when you can't come up with much anything, consider the possibility that you have been duped by tillman. If you live in the ward, like I do you should be rejoicing because in all likelihood your quality of life will now increase, your property value will increase (if you own), and you wonât have to be worried about having the most unprofessional, ill-equipped, least effective, clown of an alderman anymore. Someone who can do something other than talk loud and potenitally be a role model for black folks.
"the hat"? What the hell are your talking about? U of C? Eminent domain signs???? You have, absolutely, been drinking from the fountain of tainted dorthy tillman kool-aid. What is it, with all of these conspiracy theories these tillman nuts come up with. Its no wonder you voted for such a snake oil salesman like tillman -- you deserve her. Obviously, you don't live in the ward. Obviously, you have never tried to have her assist you with an issue in the ward. Obviously, you don't know how full of crap she is. I personally have attempted to do business in the ward and i am a black man. I assume that, since i did not give her $60 grand, like a buddy of mine had to do to get his project off the ground in the 3rd ward, that she didn't even return one of my 20-25 calls in about 45 days for something very routine and simple that could have actually helped her. Even the very few people that she "helped" over the past 23 years hated to work with her because she was such an underhanded, despicable, slimy, lier, who pimped her ward and fooled folks like you by talking loud and doing very, very little. Instead of trying to discredit Dowell with childish accusations of being homosexual, (does that help perform her aldermanic duties?), open your eyes to the truth and ask yourself where the 23 years of development are in the ward. When you can't come up with much of anything, consider the possibility that you have been duped by tillman. If you live in the ward, like I do, you should be rejoicing because, in all likelihood, your quality of life will now increase, your property value will increase (if you own), and you wonât have to be worried about having the most unprofessional, ill-equipped, least effective, clown of an alderman anymore. Someone who can do something other than talk loud and potentially be a role model for black folks. Amen.
Hallelujah! Better days are finally coming to the 3rd ward, after 23 years of neglect. You have to be exceptionally naive to eat up all the garbage that the Hat dreamt up about Pat Dowell, and her friends at 1690 AM dutifully repeated about a thousand times. But this is the way brainwashing works on those that cannot think for themselves, and we have to be thankful that most voters are too smart to accept these lies. On this end, I am celebrating, and so are most of my neighbors!
"But this is the way brainwashing works on those that cannot think for themselves." EXACTLY! Spread the word, EVERYBODY'S GOT TI USE THEIR BEANERS!
Keep buck dancing "C" and Auntie "JO" or is that Jemiamah ? White folk do not have to keep us down, we do a good,crab in a barrell job of it ourselves.
Wow. 'orion' is a white man in some posts, a black woman in others, a jew, a baptist, a black man, a white woman, an asian, a whatever point-of-view serves to set up a 'reason' to bitch, what's next, a he-she/she-he?
In as much as you have never met me, you will just have to accept the fact that I call them as I see them.
So, you've got 2 pairs of eyes, one on the front of your face, the other on the back of your ass. How nice for you.
Is that the best you got ? I guess when your arguments fail, namecalling, even at the 5th grade level, becomes the order of the day.
'orion' comments on 'Where Is Dorothy' article by Mick Dumke on April 4th "orion April 4th - 6:27 p.m. Let me get this straight: - anti Dorothy Tillman posts are allowed without restriction -anti Dowell posts are deleted. good job." and "orion April 4th - 10:09 p.m. So calling Dorothy a racist, a clown, a buffoon, a shakedown artist, etc is acceptable. Legit questions about Dowell are purged. So much for freedom. Guess the Reader is afraid of the Jackson mafia." and "orion April 5th - 1:45 p.m. So you are hanging your choice on a twenty year old court case? Quite a stretch." and "orion April 5th - 4:40 p.m. Given your sloppy-ness in not even being able to get the correct ward number, why should anyone give any credence to the rest of what you have to say ? God Bless Dorothy for leading the fight to get that horrible principal out of the Mollison School. I guess you folks would say that Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King were trouble makers too." and "Orion April 5th - 11:38 p.m. I would hazard to guess that those of you that are so much against her could not find your way to 44th and Vincennes with a road map. Outsiders support her opponent on this site, just like outsiders support her opponent financially. You folks should stick to the brie and cheese set." and "Orion April 6th - 12:21 a.m. Dorothy gave a good old south side verbal bitch-slapping to Dowell on Chicago Tonight - pointed out that Dowell was fired from her job with the City and getting 80% of her money from Unions/Developers/U of Chicago - all of whom want to grab the land from the Black folks of the ward. Dowell is a Judas-goat who will lead her own people to the slaughter." and "orion April 6th - 6:35 a.m. You seem to have a fixation on me instead of the topics in the message thread. Maybe you need to get a hobby." and "Orion April 7th - 6:10 a.m. Well, you need another one besides me." and "Orion April 7th - 9 p.m. When Tillman had a City Council committee chairmanship, she hired Grimshaw after Mayor Mumbles, I mean Sawyer, fired her from her job in the Mayor's office." and "Orion April 9th - 11:42 a.m. Tyrese: Have you taken a good look at Grimshaw and cock-eyed Laura Washington ? I think the white men they are married to are doing the brothas a favor by taking them out of circulation. Those two I would not even make a booty call wearing beer goggles." and "Orion April 11th - 4:28 p.m. My God, "son", I hope that you are not a product of the Chicago Public School that your mother ran the principal off from. Anyway, poor grammar and spelling aside, I tend to agree with you. I just need one thing: When planning an event at the Cultural Center on 47th, why does the Alderman force people to use your sisters' catering company and to use you for production and technical services ? Why are so many Tillman's on the payroll for things that are controlled by your mother ? Having said that, I would still rather have the Hat instead of someone that is going to give the land to the University of Chicago which is Pat Dowell's plan." and "Orion April 11th - 8:41 p.m. The last I checked, the "qualifications" to post are: Name: Email: Comment: I did not see a residency requirement. And not that it is any of your business oh brave annonymous "Why?", but in as much as my City, County, State and Federal tax dollars do not have a shipping label on them went they go into the various government coffers, I am entitled to opine on whatever about the government I so choose, unlike an unemployed beatnik like yourself that contributes nothing to the planet except CO2 when you exhale." and "Orion April 12th - 5:47 a.m. Beatnik: You sure have a hard-on for me. You are approaching Justin Warfel- type stalking territory (the young man sex swinger Jack Ryan hired to follow Barak Obama). Too bad you did not post the censored posts too - the people would have really learned something about the candidates. If these few posts get your goat, you must be having a coronary over the thread that has 300+ posts on the Stone/Dolar race. I am waiting for you to tie my posts into a story on TIFS." and "Orion April 12th - 5:50 a.m. If it is so hard to run a facility, then why not let professional facility managers run it ? And then you would be free to do something else besides earn chump change. And from my reading of the IL Form 990 on file with the State, you and sis are far from making chump change." and "Orion April 15th - 10:36 p.m. Father: Frankly, I could care less how The Hat treats the illegals, I mean Mexican, residents in her ward. Hopefully they will move to 26th or 18th street and stop bringing down the ward." and "Orion April 17th - 6:13 a.m. You can have all of that queer food." and "Orion April 18th - 1:01 p.m. Well "Son", looks like you are gonna have to find another job besides having the monopoloy on tech work at the Harold Washington Cultural Center." and "Orion April 23rd - 6:14 a.m. Keep buck dancing "C" and Auntie "JO" or is that Jemiamah ? White folk do not have to keep us down, we do a good,crab in a barrell job of it ourselves." and "Orion April 24th - 8:40 p.m. In as much as you have never met me, you will just have to accept the fact that I call them as I see them." and "Orion April 25th - 4:19 p.m. Is that the best you got ? I guess when your arguments fail, namecalling, even at the 5th grade level, becomes the order of the day." Thus concludes the 'orion' comments on this article. See individual article comments for the further adventures of your hero and mine, the ever enthusiastic ...... 'orion'.
YOU REALLY NEED TO GET A LIFE....
Well...One year later and the ward is a mess. No festivals, no Christmas gifts for kids, no Christmas Tree, Plenty of potholes....
The historic Palm Tavern purchased for public benefit by eminent domain, planned for restoration via a redevelopment agreement with the private owners picked by The Hatt and passed by city council, demolished without a permit and now for sale for private gain. http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/446-454-E-47th-St-60653/home/17903738
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